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Drew Carey and the Browns

From NBC SportsWorld:

Drew Carey has given up on the Cleveland Browns. This was the fact that kept echoing in my head as I watched every minute of the Browns’ humiliating and brain-dead 37-3 loss to the Bengals on Sunday. Drew Carey — Mr. Cleveland, the city’s native son, a guy who has had his own Cleveland Indians bobblehead day, a man who (like me) cried after Brian Sipe threw the Red Right 88 interception against Oakland in 1981 — has given up on the Browns.

“You don’t have to support them just because they’re in Cleveland,” he told me two days before the game. We were in Las Vegas, him to host the NASCAR Awards show, and me to ride in a race car and spin donuts with Dale Earnhardt Jr.

“You don’t have to support them,” Carey said. “You don’t have to do it. … If somebody owned a sandwich shop in Cleveland, and they were selling (bleepy) sandwiches, you don’t have to buy the (bleepy) sandwiches just because they’re from Cleveland. You could buy sandwiches from anywhere. You could buy them from a chain.”

At least the orchestra is elite

24 Responses to Drew Carey and the Browns

  1. Dale says:

    I stopped watching several games, and I am much happier for it. This organization is rotten to the core – lousy owner, lousy front office, lousy coaches, lousy players. There is absolutely no hope, with all these issues, that this team will be good. Ever. Frankly, the team should be disbanded. It would be cleansing for the city.

  2. Marc Schneider says:

    Drew Carey is absolutely right; why pay money to buy a horrible product? Interestingly, if you are a strong free-market proponent, the NFL is sort of the apotheosis of why socialism ostensibly doesn’t work. Under the NFL system, an owner doesn’t need to do a damn thing to make lots of money. And, then these apostles of free enterprise-and no government hand outs to the poor-come begging for taxpayer dollars to build them a new stadium. And owners like the Browns simply free-ride off owners that really do try to win. It’s a joke. Unfortunately, even if the Browns drew zero to the games, they would probably still make money.

    If the NFL gave a damn, the Commissioner would worry more about pathetic franchises that rip off the fans than whether Tom Brady gained a minute advantage by having balls underinflated. But he doesn’t need to because NFL fans are like heroin addicts.

    • Dale says:

      Well said, sir.

    • Darrel says:

      Actually I think you have that backwards. The NFL is the King of Capitalism. They scratched and clawed and gouged and sued their way to a giant colossus of money. A monopoly of pure greed. Capitalism built that monster not socialism. If the NFL were truly socialist every dollar earned would be split evenly between all of the participants and only what was needed to put on the games would be collected from the fans. Doesn’t sound much like the NFL I know.

      • invitro says:

        Bullsh1t. A monopoly is quintessential socialism; in socialism the government is the monopoly. Capitalism despises monopolies.

        • Marc Schneider says:

          Capitalism as a theory may despise monopolies but capitalists do not. In fact, the goal of pretty much every capitalist is the create their own monopoly. That’s why we have antitrust laws. And, even there, there are plenty of economists that will argue that monopoly can, under certain circumstances, be efficient. There are such things as “natural monopolies.”

      • Marc Schneider says:

        You have a point; I was being sort of sarcastic. It’s socialistic to the extent that the owners share all the revenue so that reduces the incentive to win. I was really trying to make the point that these owners are all proponents (I assume) of the free market, yet they operate in a system that is the very opposite. The virtue of market economy (IMO)is that it creates incentives for businesses to invest and provide a better product and the NFL does not do that.

  3. mikeinthevine says:

    While Carey is right that no one should be expected to buy into a bad product, there is a reason why Manziel was benched and relegated to third string. He is an addict and a liar and feels he’s above the rules and the best interest of the team. So what are they supposed to do, reward his destructive behavior by starting him? If Pettine hasn’t lost the locker room already that certainly would cap it off. Drew, go back to doing The Price is Right and leave us Browns’ fans to wallow in our sorrow. We don’t need any help from you.

    • Karyn says:

      There were signs he had a drinking problem before he was drafted. If they didn’t do their due diligence, that’s on them. He’s probably going to start this coming Sunday.

      I don’t know if Pettine planned on a two-week benching all along, but if he didn’t, this is becoming even more of a crazy mess.

    • MCD says:

      I could be mistaken, but I didn’t read anything in that article where Drew Carey suggested that the Browns should play Manziel. I went back and re-read, and I think all the “play Manziel” sentiment was coming straight from Joe.

  4. Marco says:

    You keep saying that they have to start Manziel to find out what they have in him.

    I think that they keep nailing him to the bench is a pretty good indication that they already know.

    For my part, I’m supremely confident that he’ll never be even an average NFL QB.

  5. thoughtsandsox says:

    “I began this whole thing — this return to Cleveland fanhood — as an adventure to rediscover that feeling of being a diehard fan.”

    If you still care for the Browns after the season they are having than congratulations, you are a diehard fan and have accomplished exactly what you set out for.

  6. rabidtiger says:

    For the truly desperate fan tempted to shed all hope, we have this encouragement from “The Battle of Maldon,” adapted to present circumstances. We are not fighting the Vikings (the ones with real axes) in the year 991 any more, after all.

    JoePoz spoke, raised his shield –
    he was an old retainer – shook his ash-spear;
    full boldly he taught warriors:
    “Thought must be the harder, heart be the keener,
    mind must be the greater, while our strength lessens.
    Here lies our team all hewn,
    good one on grit. He may always mourn
    who from this war-play thinks now to turn.

    The true warrior dies with his band of brothers. We need not.

  7. Drew says:

    Drew Carey nailed it. This is hornswoggling of the highest nature. P.T. Barnum would be proud.

  8. invitro says:

    That letting the fans fire the GM business is retarded. Beane would’ve been fired the first time the A’s made the playoffs but not the World Series.

    • Sadge says:

      Perhaps they would have done so. And then they would have to live with the consequences of their own actions for the next four years. But at least the fans have the option, for better or worse. I like that the Sounders are trying this out but I’m still neutral on the idea.

  9. Richard says:

    Just because Drew mentioned it….

    “. . . right now The Cleveland Orchestra may be, as some have argued, the finest in America. . . . ” – New York Times, July 16, 2015

    Ticket prices seem to range from $45 to $145, depending on the event. Discounts are available for families and students.

  10. Kuz says:

    Further food for thought-
    From 1991 until 1995, Belichick was the head coach of the Cleveland Browns. During his tenure in Cleveland he compiled a 36–44 record, leading the team to the playoffs in 1994, his only winning year with the team. Coincidentally, his one playoff victory during his Browns tenure was achieved against the Patriots in the wild card round during this postseason. In Belichick’s last season in Cleveland the Browns finished 5–11, despite starting 3-1. In November of that year in the middle of the ongoing football season, Browns owner Art Modell had announced he would move his franchise to Baltimore after the season. After first being given assurances that he would coach the transplanted Baltimore Ravens, Belichick was instead fired on February 15, 1996, one week after the shift was officially announced.

  11. Mark Daniel says:

    I sometimes wonder if some coaches make decisions based on how it will be perceived by the media. For example, it’s possible that Pettine can’t allow this snotty kid Manziel get the best of him, so he’ll just let some other terrible player take his place and lose horrifically instead.
    I always wondered the same thing about Rex Ryan with the Jets (who Pettine coached under). When they had Tim Tebow, Ryan seemed to refuse to give Tebow a chance, even though Mark Sanchez was the epitome of heinous that year (2012). It wasn’t that Tebow was an immature jerk like Manziel (quite the opposite), it was that Tebow had already gained the reputation of being a bad QB, so no matter what Ryan wouldn’t play him and run the risk of looking like a fool. This was especially odd later on when the Jets showed some success with a run-heavy game plan, something that Tebow might have enhanced.
    Anyway, that’s just wild speculation about two coaches, one of whom I believe to be particularly influenced by the media.

  12. I find it funny (read: stupid) how many fans fetishize cheering for bad teams as the mark of a “true fan”. Is this transferrable to any other walk of life? Like, do these people go to popular restaurants and say things like “all these other customers are bandwangoners, I was coming here when the prices were a rip off and the waitresses were spitting in my food because I’m a true fan of this restaurant”? That sounds kind of dumb, doesn’t it, but it’s basically the same as continuing to cheer for a terrible team.

    • Marc Schneider says:

      Well, I find it funny (stupid) that many people think that being a “true fan” is some kind of life accomplishment. People act as if rooting for a team (especially a bad team) is an act of character and changing your rooting interests is some kind of betrayal.

  13. Brad says:

    I understand Carey’s disappointment, but disagree with his approach. I think a real fan doesn’t abandon his team. I know, from being a Royals (and Chiefs) fan. The Royals were great from 1976-1985, then came the 28 years in the desert (which you know from reading Joe, rivals the Browns current ineptitude) until they started to play better in 2013. It made the winning all the sweeter.
    You don’t have to mix civic pride with your sports teams. Cleveland does have a great art museum and the Rock and roll HOF, and a terrific food scene. The Indians are competitive again and of course there’s LeBron and the Cavs. The football HOF could be better, but Cedar Point is a treasure.
    If someone wants to overhaul the Browns, start with the GM and the scouting dept.
    Blowing a decade of high draft picks will poison any team.

    • You don’t have to necessarily “abandon” your team, when they suck, but I happily admit that I pay much less attention and am much less invested in them when they’re bad than when they’re good (FYI, Oakland Raiders, Oakland A’s, Golden State Warriors). Back around 2000, I used to consider myself much more of a Raiders fan than a Warriors one which has obviously changed now. I still follow the Raiders and have never really stopped, much like I never stopped with the Warriors 15 years ago, but one of these teams has given me much more good memories over the past few years than the other, so I’m naturally going to enjoy watching that team more. Now, I never miss a Warriors game which simply wasn’t the case 10 years ago. I’m sure plenty will call me a “bandwagon” fan, but I’m just not one to fetishise hopelessness and incompetence. I’d rather enjoy watching sports which is supposed to be fun.

      And again, it’s this idea that the mark of a “real” fan is cheering on a terrible team that’s not getting better that bugs me. At some point, this just becomes aiding and abetting stupidity. The Raiders will always be my team, and I watch them pretty frequently, but I pay more attention to the league as a whole than I did when the Raiders were actually good.

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