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Cleveland Wins Championship

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It’s not the iPad review. It’s the other column I thought I would never write.

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  1. Marc Schneider says:

    Beautiful column. I’m not even from Cleveland, but growing up in Tennessee I used to be able to listen to Pete Franklin on a big radio I had. He was hilarious the way he berated callers. Congratulations, Cleveland. You deserve it. (Next, I would like to see a Browns-Lions Super Bowl, but I doubt I will live long enough for that.)

  2. murr2825 says:

    Some game in the future…

    Lebron’s stat line:

    Points 41
    Assists 11
    Rebounds 15
    Operas 1

    And someone, somewhere will say “yeah, but only ONE opera”

    Thanks for this, Joe. My nervous Nellie Eeyore type best pal had lost all faith, even in the first half of game 7, and I told him “the Cavs are playing lousy and they’re right in it. We got this!”

    And we got it.

  3. Dale says:

    Thanks, Joe. Cleveland does get into your heart. Very happy for my hometown.

  4. MikeN says:

    Joe, does it bother you at all that it wasn’t the Indians to get there first?

    • invitro says:

      Probably Indians or Browns. The Cavs seem to have held a relatively nonexistent place in the young Joe’s heart. Does Cleveland have a hockey team?

      • SDG says:

        No, but Columbus does.

      • Stephen says:

        They had the Barons for a brief not so shining moment, and the Cleveland Crusaders of the old WHA. I saw them play a few games in the Chicago Amphitheater against the Cougars.

        • Chuck Hardy says:

          Stephen, Cleveland had the Barons for just about ever, only they originally played in the AHL not the NHL. Freddie Glover was their heart and soul along with Cal Sterns and Johnnie Bower – yeah that Johnny Bower. They were perennial Calder Cup winners and one of the cornerstones of my Cleveland sports memories.

      • Chuck Hardy says:

        Of course it does – the Lake Erie Monsters – who just won the AHL Calder Cup just a couple of weeks ago.

  5. MikeN says:

    Would Clevelanders feel betrayed if LeBron left again, say to the Knicks?

      • Mr Fresh says:

        I don’t agree.. there might be some.. but I think they would be the rare exception. It’s hard to put into words, how much good ONE title does to psyche of Northeast Ohio….. but I think there will be a lot more understanding of any “decisions” in the future.

        Having said that.. I don’t think he’s going anywhere for a long time.

  6. Dodger300 says:

    Last year the Royals, after 30 years in the desert, and now this year the Cavs.

    Happy for you, Joe.

    • MikeN says:

      Big deal, before we had Red Sox and White Sox back to back after 86 and 88 years.
      Of course this could get followed by Cubs at 108 years.

      • Dodger300 says:

        MikeN, it’s okay if it’s not a big deal for you. It’s obviously a big deal for Joe, and lots of other people.

        Nobody has been alive for 108 years anyway, so whether it’s been that long, or half that long for a city to wait, what’s the difference? It’s still a lifetime for most folks.

        It is not very becoming to pooh-pooh someone else’s joy.

        • Stephen says:

          Also fair to say that this was a Cleveland-wide drought. Boston had plenty of championships, mostly courtesy of the Celtics, and Chicago had a few championships in other sports as well. MikeN might be familiar with a fellow named Jordan, for instance… 🙂

        • Spencer says:

          And those stretches were for a specific franchise, not every franchise in the city. Completely different things. If you like, take those 52 years and multiply it by 3 for each franchise and you got 156 years (well not quite, the Cavs haven’t been around the whole time but you get the point)

        • MikeN says:

          I didn’t catch how both were Joe’s teams. I was just focused on the closeness of two long droughts being broken.

  7. NevadaMark says:

    Well Joe, Kansas City AND Cleveland have won their world titles. Since it seems that about 50% of your prior writings focused on both, what in the world are you going to write about now? Oh, and many congratulations.

  8. dachshund says:

    I should be happy for the happiness of another long suffering rust belt city that’s never done anything to offend me. That relative to their opponent played a brand of basketball this guard loathing former center could get behind. I should be happy. This is why we keep sports around.


    Cleveland winning a championship somehow sucks a some of the magic out of sports. The gods no longer decree that something must be so, curses are not real, randomness rules. We can no longer count on the truths we have always known to be there. For heaven’s sake, we may soon be subjected to the Cubs winning something and watching their fans show Boston the definition of insufferable.

    The universe is better because the people of Cleveland are happy, but it is also wrong.

    • invitro says:

      After the Kobe tour of last year, I now think that LA Laker fans are the most insufferable.

    • SDG says:

      I kind of love that in the last 15 years the Red Sox AND the White Sox won the Series. I’m hoping the Cubs will do it this year, partly for their fans, partly so I never have to hear the word “curse” ever again.

      Leafs will never win, though. So there’s one constant in sports.

      • Dan says:

        The Leafs will never win until they do win. It’ll happen sometime, like Cleveland winning or a woman becoming president or the NDP winning in Alberta. No-one thinks it can happen until it becomes a possibility, then a distinct possibility, then a you know what, this could actually happen, and then something that doesn’t seem surprising really, just amazing.

      • MikeN says:

        The Cubs really are cursed though.

    • MikeN says:

      >The gods no longer decree that something must be so, curses are not real, randomness rules.

      No, it just like we have the Clash of the Titans, and LeBron defeats the gods.

    • Spencer says:

      That’s a weird comment. Nothing is wrong.

    • Brent says:

      Cubs’ fans are already insufferable this year and we aren’t even halfway through the year. I keep telling them to not count their chickens before they are hatched, even mentioning relevant facts (like it is an even year and the Giants are leading their division). But nope, they are convinced that Joe Madden leading them to the Promised Land this year.

      It is going to really suck for them when their 112 win team gets knocked out of the playoffs by the Wild Card winning St. Louis Cardinals (who will have all of 89 wins during the regular season)

  9. EnzoHernandez11 says:

    Nice tribute.

    San Diego and Buffalo are now on the clock…

    Small thing: I was a radio guy in 1981. Pretty sure it was W*G*AR on 1220. WJAR was in Providence.

    • Mark Daniel says:

      Sigh. Even in a comment about pathetic, hapless, loser sports franchises, the Detroit Lions are ignored.

      • EnzoHernandez11 says:

        Mark, it’s not about franchises; it’s about cities. Given their druthers, I am guessing that most Clevelanders would have preferred a Browns Super Bowl win to the Cavaliers’ triumph.

        Sure, the Lions have been painful to Detroit (a fact that has not at all gone unnoticed by the sports media), but the Pistons, Wings, and Tigers have all won titles within the past 35 years. Not Boston, to be sure, but far ahead of Buffalo and San Diego.

  10. Zach Walters says:

    I checked your Twitter feed right away just for the vicarious happiness. Hope it feels as good as you hoped it would.

  11. invitro says:

    Let’s not forget that for a young sports fan, having even Cleveland’s woes is infinitely superior to having no local pro teams at all.

    • TGAinCMH says:

      This reminds me of a line from the movie “Men in Black”. After learning of his partner’s lost love, Will Smith’s character says, “Well, it is better to have loved and lost…” to which his partner stares at him replies gruffly, “Try it.”

      Unless you’ve lived it and experienced just how heart wrenching it can be, don’t wish for it or play it down as “not so bad”. Until Sunday night, I would rather have been from a town with no sports teams.

  12. KHAZAD says:

    I have to wonder whether there has been another finals where one player has led both teams in points (50 more than Curry), Rebounds (8 more than Thompson), Assists (24 more than Green), Steals (3 more than Irving), and Blocks (6 more than Bogut)? An incredible performance!

    • Mike says:

      There has never been another SERIES (in any round) in the history of the NBA where someone led in all five categories.

  13. Rob Smith says:

    The only thing close I ever experienced was when the Lakers FINALLY beat the Celtics in the finals. It was great. We celebrated. Then we got up and went to work the next day. In some ways, there was really nothing left to root for because “it” had already happened. The games were still fun, but didn’t seem so important anymore. And nationally, I think the Lakers were much more endearing when they constantly lost to the Celtics. The Celtics were the bad guys. Suddenly the Lakers were a dynasty and Pat Riley was patenting “Three-peat”. Ugh. Three in a row. Yeah, neat. Now what?

    When the Red Sox won and then EVERYONE was on their bandwagon & the new fans started wearing the pink hats. It’s sort of spoiled it when the team and the fans became highly annoying & too much like the Yankees. They lost a lot of their charm just as the Cubs will after they win. I’m not sure the Cavs ever had any of that charm, though. They were just always bad. Even with LeBron a few years back, nobody thought they’d actually win in the finals. They maxed out at making the finals and everyone knew it. How nice. It will be interesting to see what happens. I’m sure there will be a nice bandwagon effect as long as the team is still really good. But the charm will be gone. They have their championship. Nationally, nobody will be inclined to root for the team that already won. In fact, LeBron is polarizing enough that Cav fandom will pretty much just be locals going forward. The neat little Cleveland story has already played out. It’s done. Back to clemenating on LeBron. Kyrie and Love are pretty good targets for clemenation too.

    As a Rams season ticket holder in the 80s and 90s (before they left Anaheim), somehow the fact that they always fell short made next year more exciting. Yeah! Next year! The 49ers are getting old! They’re vulnerable. We’ve got the team now! Of course, the Rams left before they won & only the most ridiculous fan considered the St Louis Ram Super Bowl win to be important. Some of my old buddies are putting their Rams 80s gear on and getting season tickets. I just can’t go there. It’s not the same.

    • invitro says:

      The Cavs weren’t always awful… they had that one powerhouse team with Daugherty, Price, Nance, Harper, some other solid players. The one that lost to the idiotically named “The Shot” by Jordan. It’s a shame they had a horrible coach, or they might’ve won a title one year.

      • Rob Smith says:

        True, they weren’t always awful. That was a good team. But it was only really good for two years, 1991-92 (made the conf finals) and 92-93 (swept by the Bulls in the conf semis). Both were 50+ win teams. After that, they had some decent teams, but mostly fell in the first round of the playoffs. So, granted they were a respectable team for a period of time in the early 90s. And certainly the LeBron led teams were always respectable. But there was never any history of winning championships like with the Browns and, to a lesser extent, the Indians.

        Nonetheless, I have to concede the point. They were not always “bad”.

    • Marc Schneider says:

      I’m not sure I understand the attraction to the “charm” of always losing.

      • Rob Smith says:

        Sometimes the anticipation of “finally winning” becomes exciting. Always losing is not so great, and nobody wants to have a losing team. It’s really the winning team that’s really close. Yeah, they let you down…. but they’re so close…. and just one good break, one more better player, one more year of age on a talented opponent…. and we’ll finally win. Winning is fun. Anticipation is exciting. Winning multiple times really makes winning expected & leads to disappointment. when you don’t win. That’s the “spoiled fan” complex. Think Yankee fans. Anything short of a Championship is just not acceptable.

      • MikeN says:

        There is none, except for outsiders. Bill Simmons after the Red Sox win
        “I’ve lost all sense of identity. For years I have defined myself as being a fan of a team that always loses. Now I don’t know what to do with my life.
        For anyone that wrote something like that over the last year, just stick a pencil in your eye.”

  14. Dan says:

    Couldn’t be happier for you, Joe, and for Cleveland. Congrats to LeBron and the Cavaliers.

  15. Steve says:

    This has to be one of the best pieces you’ve ever written, Joe. I grew up in Northwest Ohio. I remember well listening to Joe Tait and Pete Franklin on WWWE. When I was in college, some friends and I drove 5 hours to see a playoff game between the Cavs (with Austin Carr, Nate Thurmond, Bingo Smith, et al.) and the Boston Celtics in the Richfield Coliseum. After the game, which the Cavs won, we remained in our seats to watch a replay of the entire game and then drove back another 5 hours. One of my most memorable experiences. I’ve lived out east for more than 30 years, now, and I can tell you that although you can take the boy out of Ohio, you can’t take Ohio out of the boy. Thanks for such a beautiful piece of writing. It took me home!

  16. Timo says:

    Now, if only the Texas Rangers can win the World Series this year. With Prince Fielder, Choo and Moreland, three of their most productive offensive players last year, either hurt or playing horribly this year(to be fair, Choo is now back and moreland is racking again), not to mention Darvishs injury problems, Im hoping that this is the year! I mean wow! 46-25 with the aforementioned problems(not to mention tollenson being replaced as closer). Ive been waiting since 1988(5 years old at the time when I saw Bobby Witt pitch at the old minor league ballpark). #gorangerzzz

  17. mark says:

    “Next, I would like to see a Browns-Lions Super Bowl,”
    ” I’m hoping the Cubs will do it this year, partly for their fans, partly so I never have to hear the word “curse” ever again.”
    “Leafs will never win, though.”
    “San Diego and Buffalo are now on the clock…”
    “Now, if only the Texas Rangers can win the World Series this year.”

    Being a Minnesota Vikings fan means not just never winning but having nobody even really notice.

    • Marc Schneider says:

      You have a point there. But the key here is that places like Cleveland and Detroit (and Buffalo for that matter) have had rough times in the last 50 years. I don’t think you can say the same for Minneapolis, at least not to the same degree. You don’t have lakes that have caught on fire or huge tracts of empty land in the city. 🙂

    • SDG says:

      They joked about the Vikings never winning on “How I Met Your Mother”, if that helps. Of course not as much as they joked about Ckeveland fans and Lebron leaving.

  18. Tom Duggan says:

    Joe Thanks for the great insight and memories.
    I was one of those kids in ’78 or so delivering the Cleveland Press at 4pm in February, pitch black, freezing, and yes walking backwards in the wind (LOL).
    You nailed it with this story and makes me proud to say “I am from Cleveland. .east side!”
    Awesome and thanks again –
    Tom Duggan

  19. Leslie Kleinman says:

    I will save this and read and reread just to savor the flavor you captured our my wonderful, underrated , over criticized, magnificent home town . You drew tears from young and old alike. Thank you, thank you, thank you for your words full of heart.

  20. MikeN says:

    Why is Cleveland called such a losing city? They’ve won championships before.
    Milwaukee hasn’t won in over 60 years, but no one talks about them.

    • Chemo says:

      Well, just about everybody in Milwaukee is a Packers fan, so they haven’t been too hard done by.

    • invitro says:

      The Bucks won in 1971 (Kareem), so it’s 45 years for them. And yeah, I think you gotta include Green Bay with Milwaukee.

    • EnzoHernandez11 says:

      Agree with above. Almost everyone I know from Milwaukee and its suburbs is a Packers fan first, and a Brewers and/or Bucks fan second (and for many, the order would read: Packers, Badgers, Brewers, Bucks).

    • Marc Schneider says:

      The Bucks won in 1971; a long time but not 60 years.

  21. Hey Now! says:

    Jeez, Joe – spoiler alert, maybe?

  22. Weldon Dowd says:

    Does the Cav’s win officially make Atlanta the worst sports city in the U.S.?

    • EnzoHernandez11 says:

      I don’t think so. If we’re talking about cities/regions with 3+ major pro teams, Atlanta has won a title (Braves, 1995) more recently than either Minnesota or D.C. (both 1991). The Braves, of course, were outstanding for 15 years, although they had only one championship to show for it, which is obviously frustrating. The Falcons and Hawks have had their moments. Do Atlantans really miss the Thrashers?

      • Rob Smith says:

        No, very few miss the Thrashers. They had a good venue. The fans just didn’t care very much. Ownership was a big part of the problem, the same owners that owned the Hawks until recently.

        And really Braves fans know they should have, at least, won in 1991 when Jack Morris (36 yr old Jack Morris in his one year with Minnesota) shut them out for 10 innings and in 1996 with a 2-0 series lead and winning game 3 by six runs vs. the Yankees when Jim Leyritz (benchwarmer) dropped a bomb on Mark Wohlers to win the game & change the series. So, legitimately the Braves should have 2 or 3, however you feel about Jack Morris and Jim Leyritz and their contributions.

        • Marc Schneider says:

          Actually, the Braves lost Game 3 in 1996. It was Game 4 that they were up by six and Leyritz hit the home run.

          And they almost certainly would have won in 1991 if they had had home field advantage as the Metrodome was a horror for visiting teams.

          And, if you are going to continue playing this game, in 1992, they would likely have been up 2-0 if they had had a real closer rather than an over-the-hill Jeff Reardon.

          You can go on and on with what-ifs for the Braves.

      • Weldon Dowd says:

        The barometer I use is take the years a franchise has been in that city and divide it by how many championships. So for Atlanta, the total number of years of existence for the Braves (in Atlanta), Falcons, Hawks, Thrashers (dont forget the Flames), total up those years, and divide that by the # of championships. Using this model, i cant think of a city that has a worse record (no pun intended) than Atlanta. Not poo poohing Atlanta (I live here). Just think its the worst city going by that model.

  23. EnzoHernandez11 says:

    Interesting perspective. I’m too lazy to look everything up, but Washington might still have a case even with the three (?) Super Bowl wins for the Hogs (I’ll follow the proprietor’s etiquette) and one NBA title for the Bullets. If you count all the years that the Hogs and, especially, the Senators I/Senators II/Nationals have played in DC, the higher denominator might overcome Atlanta’s lower numerator (one). Of course, it you want to bring cities that *used* to have three major sports franchises, then Buffalo and San Diego are back on top (bottom) because their numerators are zero (unless one counts the infancy of the AFL, when it was by no means “major league”; and if you do, then we’ve got to bring the ABA, WHA, USFL, and Federal League into it 🙂 ).

    It’s a difficult question, I guess, which is good, because it makes it more fun to argue.

    • EnzoHernandez11 says:

      The comment above was meant in response to Mr. Dowd’s.

    • Marc Schneider says:

      I assume you are factoring in the fact that Washington was without a baseball team for many years.

      As for the AFL/NFL, there is some difference in that the NFL counts AFL records. I could be incorrect but I don’t think the other sports do that with leagues that they absorbed or drove out. Of course, there could only be one NFL champion in 1963-the Bears. But the Chargers won the AFL championship and, at least based on the fact that the NFL counts AFL records, I think you would have to count it. As for the AFL not being major league, some people think the Chargers would have beaten the Bears (who, to be fair, were not one of the stronger NFL champions).

      • EnzoHernandez11 says:

        All fair points. So I looked it up…the Senators won a singel WS and the Hogs took two NFL titles before the merger. So that’s seven championships, so I’m probably wrong. Here’s what I get, ignoring the 19th century:

        Senators/Nats, 83 years, 1 title
        Hogs, 84 years, 5 titles
        Bullets/Wiz, 43 years, 1 title
        Caps, 42 years, 0 titles
        Ratio: 7/252 = .0278

        Braves, 50 years, 1 title
        Falcons. 50 years, 0 titles
        Hawks, 48 years, 0 titles
        Flames/Thrash, 20 years, 0 titles
        Ratio: 1/168, .00595 (Weldon Dowd, FTW)

        Padres, 47 years, 0 titles
        Chargers, 55 years, 1 title (if we count the AFL)
        Rockets/Clippers, 11 years, 0 titles
        Ratio: 1/113, .0088

        Bills, 56 years, 2 titles (AFL)
        Braves, 8 years, 0 titles
        Sabres, 46 years, 0 titles
        Ratio: 2/110, .0182

        Heck, let’s add the Twin Cities:

        Twins, 55 years, 2 titles
        Vikings, 56 years, 0 titles
        Lakers, I won’t count them, but they won 5 titles; if they count MN is out
        T-Wolves, 28 years, 0 titles
        N-Stars/Wild, 42 years, 0 titles
        Ratio, 2/181, .0110

        So, the misery index says that Atlanta is the most tortured sports town. Of course, you could set an arbitrary limit and say a city is disqualified if it’s won a title in, say, the last 20 years (ATL slips under the wire) or the last 25 years (in which case, San Diego “wins” the misery award).

        I really should be doing something productive with my time…

        • Weldon Dowd says:

          I knew someone would figure it out!!! I thought it would be interesting to put it out there and see who REALLY resides in the most tortured sports city. Well done Enzo!

        • Marc Schneider says:

          I think the misery index should also take into account how much people care. I live in the DC area and have for 30 years, but my team allegiances were from other areas (primarily the Braves) and that’s true of most people here. So, a lot of people here just don’t care that much because, in many cases, they are rooting for other teams. For example, I am attending Nats/Mets games with two different Mets fans. I root for Washington teams now, but it’s not the same as being from Cleveland.

          • EnzoHernandez11 says:

            I think you’re right, but that’s obviously a much tougher nut to crack. And there are really three issues:
            1) How many people in the city care about the local teams? (cities that benefit from population migration-DC, San Diego, Miami-probably have a lot of “locals” who pull for out of town teams; cities that are shrinking-Cleveland, Buffalo-do not)
            2) Are there some fan bases that are more ferocious in their attachments than others? If so, they may feel more misery from long strings of losing seasons. Many suggest that this ferocity correlates with a feeling of desperation in other areas of life (thus, Buffalo’s paid supposedly exceeds San Diego’s).
            3) Are some sports more important than others in the life of a city? Of course they are, but how do we measure the differences? Despite the success of the Blue Jays, will Toronto sports fans ever be truly happy until the Leafs win the cup again?

            And, of course, as noted above, there’s the recency question: How much meaning should we attach to the fact that the Twins won a couple of World Series a quarter of a century ago? Likewise, does the Cavs’ win, in the face of decades of multi-sport futility and heartbreak, now give us the right to tell Cleveland to STFU and get to the back of the line.

            Misery is very subjective.

  24. Weldon Dowd says:

    I agree to a point as well. Its not just the transient nature of some cities (I live in Atlanta, no one seems to be from here either) but the sport as well, which Enzo dutifully pointed out. I used to live in Wisconsin and though there is a lot of support for the Brewers (not so much the Bucks) its s till Packers, Packers and yes, more Packers. So Enzo’s Toronto analogy is spot on. I think a cities region has a lot to do with it. Here in Atlanta, football (especially college football) rules the roost. Same with Texas. But if you live in say New Jersey, they really dont give a crap about college football.

    With Cleveland’s victory would it have been different if the Indians were perennial winners? Or the Browns? I am not from Cleveland but that town always struck me as more of a football/baseball town. Since those teams havent won a championship for a very long time, the Cav’s win is more magnified and celebrated. I dont think it would’ve been as big a deal if the other teams werent so bad. Obviously there is no way to quantify this but its fun to discuss it. I guess misery index is probably not the correct term here, its more a futility index.

    Oh and telling Cleveland to STFU? Even with the Cav’s win, they are probably still pretty low on the “futility” index, even though they moved up a few notches, no?

    Lastly, how come no one has said my user name is funny? What’s wrong w/you people?!!

    • EnzoHernandez11 says:

      Ah, Mr. Trump, so good to have you with us. And such long fingers, too.
      (Just kidding…not meant to start a political argument. 🙂 )

  25. Mr Fresh says:

    I agree the transient nature matters. When you talk about suffering in Cleveland, you were talking year round letdowns over 50+ years. People in Northeast Ohio never had an offseason. There are people that have lived here their entire lives and never saw their team win anything. As unimportant as sports are in the scheme of things, it’s still hard to get past 146 seasons without winning a single championship. It can become part of your identity.

  26. shagster says:

    Hate to bear the bad news, but you can give this one to the refs. This series is Example A why no one should credibly watch the NBA Playoffs and expect a reasonably authentic outcome based on athletic ability and teamwork. Comparatively speaking, NBA makes refs in soccer look like Jesuits with PHDs in mechanical engineering. The NBA is the only league where there are THREE TEAMS on the field during the playoffs, with the 3rd team not there to score, but to determine the outcome in favor of one or the other. This go round, for Cleveland. It’s like having a big brother ready to back you up in a fight you’re having with a kid your own age. On a playground, kids would say it’s not a fair fight. In NBA, it’s called a ?Championship?

    NBA Finals is a great example of why March Madness is the only authentic basketball event – and possibly greatest annual sporting event – in the U.S.

    • Chuck Hardy says:

      Lemme guess, you’re a Warriors fan right? This is the prototypical sore losers lament: something other than the player’s play lost the game. On the playground they call this sour grapes.

      Too bad that some Warriors fans don’t have the class demonstrated by Steve Kerr who said quite simply, “the best team won”. You know why he said that? Cuz they did.

      • Marc Schneider says:

        I agree and the thing is, even if you do think the refs gave Cleveland the series, don’t say it. It’s just a lack of class. I played tennis with a guy once and after I beat him, he mentioned that his arm was hurting, implying, of course that I would not have won if he had been healthy. Even if it’s true, why say it? Show a little class.

  27. David Waters says:

    Thank you, Joe. I grew up on the west side, I moved to another city with great barbecue, got married, had kids and became a journalist. I’ve been gone almost 40 years but Cleveland is still in me. Watched Game 7 with my youngest son. Worth every second I’ve waited to see it happen. Thanks for the memories and for preserving this moment in time.

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