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Browns Fandom, Week 6

From NBC SportsWorld:

On the next play, Josh McCown threw one of the most dismal and blatant interceptions that a human being can throw. And Mike lost it.

“What the (bleep) was that?” Mike shouted at me. “Why are you dragging me into your (bleeping) Browns insanity? What the (bleep) was that? And you know what the worst part is? You were out, man! You were totally out. Yeah, you grew up in Cleveland, you had to root for the team so you could have friends, but then you were out! Why would you VOLUNTARILY go back into this (bleep). Why?”

And then, he asked the most pertinent question of all.

“And why would you drag me into your Cleveland (bleep)?” he shouted.

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12 Responses to Browns Fandom, Week 6

  1. Jamie says:

    So, if we’re not going to continue the top 100 player commentaries, you want to just give us your list? This has quickly devolved into an even bigger laugh than the iPad review …

    That said, thanks for your writing. Always top notch.

  2. I didn’t understand the two point conversion either. First, I’ve always thought that you’d (maybe) try the two point conversion in that situation IF you could get to a 3 point or 7 point lead by doing so. In addition, from watching so many failed two point attempts leading to losses, I also believe that you really need to get down inside 4-5 minutes for them to make sense…. unless you are dreadfully behind & have no choice. There is so much scoring that can, and often does, happen in the last 8 minutes of the game. You just don’t know enough about what’s going to happen to take a 50/50 play (at best). Would you flip a coin in that situation to determine whether you get an extra point or have one less than you should have? That’s about the situation. But, as Joe pointed out, it’s even worse when you’re a team who’s QB is Josh McCown. Your chance of success is nowhere near 50%. I don’t think coaches take that into consideration. It almost amazes me as much as the clock management issues that seem to surface. Head coaches, most of them anyway, have nothing to do with play calling. You’d think they’d bone up on clock management since they’re really not doing anything else out there other than mugging for the camera… the ever present, and over used, coaches reaction shots.
    Mike Smith got fired last year essentially for botched clock management costing two wins last year. If he manages the clock properly, he wins two more games, wins the Division and makes the playoffs. He probably doesn’t get fired. Bottom line: the head coach has three things to do. Manage timeouts & save them for the end of the game. Manage the clock. Decide whether to go for two. Honestly, I could do this pretty easily. If I was paid a sum of $500/game, I would make sure to have all the variables in place, fully studied & never screw up any of these. I wonder why coaches, who get paid millions, with games often riding on one or two decisions or plays, don’t have this locked down.

  3. Tim Iskra says:

    Thanks for the timely and unfortunately pertinent article. It’s very difficult to be a Browns fan these days. I’ve been a fan my whole life and I can’t switch after 47 yrs. I’ve raised my children to be Cleveland fans too. Loyalty, especially in face of heartache, can be rewarding. That being said, I’m having a hard time convincing myself to keep pushing the loyalty (what else is there for Cleveland fans?) on my children.
    My son had the opportunity to go see a game at Heinz Field this past weekend. I wished him a good time. He sent me a pic of the skyline from the upper deck, it looked great. I half-jokingly told him just because he was in Pittsburgh with his buddy from school, he couldn’t root for the Steelers. He responded that he had a terrible towel in his pocket and it felt wrong. He’s a good man. When he got back to school later that night, he had two interesting things to say. First, he said, “Dad, you should’ve seen the mood of the Steelers fans. They’re starting Vick and then the 3rd stringer comes in and not once did the fans seem like they were going to lose the game.” Then what previously would’ve been a dagger to my loyal heart, “I don’t know if I can root for the Browns anymore.” I told him I’d understand if he switched allegiances and that I’d stop watching football before I rooted for another.
    I’m already excited about the Cavs and counting the days until Spring Training (baseball will always be my first love) so there’s plenty to do without the Browns. For that matter, I didn’t fade away from ’96 – ’99, I just didn’t watch football so it’s already been done.
    I was at the Stadium against the Broncos for “The Drive” and we were making Super Bowl plans in the stands when we downed the punt inside the 5. That was the longest, quietest three hour drive home ever. After last week, even the hope is hard to find.
    Do they really believe that McCown gives them the best chance to win????????

  4. pen95 says:

    Long for the days of Jim Brown and those Browns

  5. Mike W. says:

    Joe, I agree with the Browns should have just kicked the extra point – but you didn’t consider this: Had the Browns kicked the extra point to go up 5, then when Denver scored the touchdown, THEY would have gone for 2 to be up either 1 or 3. So, Cleveland’s decision was really “Do we think we can convert a 2 pointer, or stop a 2 pointer?”

    • Gesge says:

      That’s just what I was going to post. If Denver goes up 22-21 then they go for 2 to try and get up by three. It certainly would not be a 23-21 game like Joe suggests.

      Maybe Joe’s right in the sense that the Browns are horrible and thus should not try anything different, but the answer here is not as obvious as he’s making it out to be.

  6. Marco says:

    Joe, I am amazed you were able to write this entire article without swearing. I struggle to string together two sentences about the ^%#&^ing Browns without resorting to profanity.

    • Mr Fresh says:

      If $&#^#%^ counts as swearing then Joe swore twice in the first five paragraphs.

      Can’t say I blame him.

      $&#^#%^ing Browns.

  7. Grover Jones says:

    Joe, I hate how your articles on NBC Sports don’t have a date (I know this isn’t your fault). It would be nice to see a date for each article on your “page” ( or on the actual articles. It is the only media site I know of that doesn’t date its articles.

  8. A.B. says:

    “He grew up a Jets fan and a Mets fan; he knows the pain of losing. But he does not know what I know.”

    I love that last sentence. It resonates. As an undergraduate, many of my friends hailed from Cleveland. It was ridiculous. Somehow, they knew every Cleveland athletic endeavor and cheered for it. They could name the top 2 badminton players in world rankings that were from Cleveland. Outrageous. Last year during NFL playoff time, I saw a guy on a motorcycle heading North toward DC in the horrible northern VA commute. It was near freezing. Crazy, right? Well, he was wearing his Cleveland Browns jacket proudly. I laughed at him. And I respected him.

    American Football lasts too long. It is a one-hour game played over a 4.5 hour period in which people try to convince you to drink beer and buy a new pickup truck. I don’t watch as much for this reason. The other reason is because it is the nicest time of the year to be outside, but I digress.

    Every few days, I find myself here reading Joe’s latest postings. And I am grateful for it.

    • Marc Schneider says:

      No offense to loyal fans, but there are other things to do in life besides suffer with continually bad teams. In fact, IMO, it’s this blind loyalty that allows incompetent and greedy owners to continue to put a bad product on the field and have people pay to see it. If a company built a car that sucked like this, no one would buy it. The company would either improve it or go out of business. But, in sports, people see it as a badge of honor to support bad teams year after year. Of course, attendance will often decrease (although not as much in football) but if people would just say “to hell with it” perhaps the owners would get the message. IMO, there is absolutely no reason of professional teams in any sport in this day and age to be bad year after year, decade after decade. There is no reason that the New England Patriots should be good all the time and the Browns suck. I wish the leagues could depose bad ownership after a certain time by saying something like “you are devaluing our brand by your incompetence.” Every time someone buys a Cleveland Browns (or any other bad team) jacket, they are simply enabling the owner to continue to put a bad product on the field. I live in the DC area and I see the same thing with the team here; utterly incompetent and venal ownership that continually makes bad decisions but is able to keep the team as a cash cow. I watch the games-when I have nothing better to do-but I refuse to invest any emotional energy into an organization that does not deserve it.

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