Comments on: 210-210-210 seasons

By: caitlin

caitlin — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:31:36 +0000

tim carver is an idiot. saying that wins is where the cy young should be judged… and not stats. the fact is that the cy young is a pitching award for a players personal acheivment. he wants CC to win because he is a yankee fan for sure. and the award he is describing is an MVP. if the royals could score one or two behind a couple of zacks 0-1 losses or his no decisions, they can’t (cause they dont have an offense) he could possibly have a 20 win season… maybe more. he has pitched that incredibly. and SHOULD win the cy young. we’ll see if the voters feel the same i guess.

By: Link Dump « Triples Alley

Link Dump « Triples Alley — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:49:39 +0000

[...] Posnanski talks about Zack Greinke’s amazing season. It’ll be blasphemy if Zack doesn’t win the Cy Young. I just don’t see how he [...]

By: Michael (in NYC)

Michael (in NYC) — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:43:20 +0000

@ Mikey (33):

No, not Bruce (though he’s costing me a player in my softball game Wednesday!).

New Model Army at the Mercury Lounge.

By: upamtn

upamtn — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:29:01 +0000

yeah Ted, Mellinger added it all up and showed that Zack’s ERA in his WORST games are BETTER than Sabathia’s overall

Greinke’s ERA in his losses and no-decisions is 3.23. CC Sabathia’s overall ERA is 3.31

Someone PLEASE give Zack the award already!

By: Ted

Ted — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:09:11 +0000

This I think bears repeating, because there seems to be the sense among some baseball fans that Greinke essentially put together two unbelievable hot stretches to bookend an otherwise so-so season:

In 31 starts Greinke surrendered more than three earned runs only four times. That is consistently excellent pitching.

By: Ted

Ted — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:02:50 +0000

I know I have seen it before, but just for fun I looked up Greinke’s ERA in wins, losses and no decisions, then compared each to Sabathia. My favorite: Greinke’s ERA in no decisions is almost identical to Sabathia’s ERA in wins (1.96 compared to 1.93, respectively).

Anyway:

Greinke ERA in wins: 0.98.
Sabathia ERA in wins: 1.93.

Greinke ERA in losses: 4.66.
Sabathia ERA in losses: 7.29.

Greinke ERA in no decisions: 1.96.
Sabathia ERA in no decisions: 3.75.

Other fun facts:

Greinke has one win in games when he allows three earned runs or more; Sabathia has six.

Greinke has four losses when allowing three earned runs or fewer; Sabathia has none.

Greinke has six no decisions when pitching at least six innings and giving up no more than two earned runs; Sabathia has two (plus one no decision when he pitched 5.2 innings and allowed only one earned run).

Greinke has allowed four earned runs or more in four games, they were all losses. Sabathia has allowed four earned runs or more 10 times, earning himself one win, two no decisions and seven losses.

By: Nathan E.

Nathan E. — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:49:39 +0000

I just bought The Machine with a coupon and ended up paying $19.75. I felt like a dork pointing out that was the year of the team the book was about but I just had to tell someone.

By: Ted

Ted — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:13:34 +0000

Matt @9:

Yeah, sorry. I meant, what does Greinke have to do to finish with an ERA under 2?

By: John Q.

John Q. — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:29:00 +0000

I’m still amazed at so called “sports people” who still say, “Yeah Grienke getting closer to winning the Cy Young. He still has that 15-8 record which isn’t great”

Maybe Grienke’s awesome season will strike a serious blow to W-L record having as much relevance among baseball fans and broadcasters.

By: Mikey

Mikey — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:39:46 +0000

@28 – Bruce at Giants Stadium?