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		<title>By: What 18-11 means &#124; Gadget Look</title>
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		<dc:creator>What 18-11 means &#124; Gadget Look</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Remember the line in &#x201c;It&#x2019;s A Wonderful Life&#x201d; where Ernie the taxi driver rolls past the bank and says, &#x201c;I&#8217;ve never really seen one, but that&#8217;s got all the earmarks of being a run.&#x201d; To me, wheRead more at http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/07/23/what-18-11-means/ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Rookies &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why I Root: The Kansas City Royals</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Rookies &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why I Root: The Kansas City Royals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] now, I actually don&#8217;t have the slightest idea.  Tags: crimes against humanity, dayton moore, hide the sharp objects and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Clayton Kershaw is not for sale at any price</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clayton Kershaw is not for sale at any price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Clayton Kershaw threw a special game but I didn&#8217;t realize how special it was until reading a column by Joe Posnanski yesterday in which he mentioned this Bill James [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Aronson</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/07/23/what-18-11-means/#comment-67289</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Aronson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 06:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, the grammar (in case SI decides to move your blog to its blog): &quot;if a big league pitchers strikes&quot; should be &quot;pitcher strikes&quot;.

I have zero objections to your list.  None.  Yeah, many of your favorites were too high.  But you weren&#039;t making a draft list.  You were listing the 100 best players, in your opinion, right now.  So somebody else thinks #84 should have been #48.  Big deal!  Who on your list didn&#039;t belong on your list?  In fact, you listed a couple of guys I was questionable about so I went and looked them up, and my objections went away.  And that&#039;s why I loved your list; you opened my eyes to some guys I didn&#039;t know about (because I gave up hard core baseball studying for being a better father back in 1986 at my wife&#039;s insistance, and haven&#039;t gotten back into it now that the kid&#039;s out of the house).

This wasn&#039;t a fantasy draft order.  This was the guys you thought were the best 100 players in baseball right now, this season.  It was a fine list for that.  The guys having mediocre seasons historically were second half heroes, and everybody else was having a great season.  Be proud of that list*!  Good job!

&lt;i&gt;Of course, maybe your next list could have an extra player or two from the team with the best record in baseball.  I mean, NINE Yankees?  Oh, wait, that&#039;s right.  This is an SI article, and Yankees, or players who beat the Yankees, get way too much credit from media operations based in you know where.  Based on record, too many Red Sox as well.  I&#039;ll give you too many Cardinals, since they&#039;re local to you and you can hardly put on more Royals.  But if there&#039;s ever a sign that New York media influences too many baseball decisions, it has to be your list.  The Yankees missed the playoff last year, don&#039;t have the best record in baseball this year, but have the most players on your list.  Which Yankee am I going to throw off your list?  Um, er, well - psych!  Both starting pitchers.  I mean, no starter with an ERA above 3.5 and no more than +4 WL for the team with the second best record in baseball deserves to be on that list.&lt;/i&gt;

But if you want to be friendlier to your critics, group them in groups as follows: one position player from each of the eight positions, one utility player/DH (or slugging first baseman who doesn&#039;t field well), four starting pitchers, one relievers, one other pitcher (could be starter, reliever, setup guy, whoever).  Put out six teams, add in the ten best guys who you couldn&#039;t fit in for whatever reason at the end.  Because your list goes to #19 before finding the third outfielder, and the premise was, you need to win THIS year.  And I bet players 14-19 (I know, Manny&#039;s the third outfielder at #19) wouldn&#039;t be on your team, and #20 (Ichiro) would be.  The advantage of grouping them that way would be it becomes clear if bias is creeping in.  Every team needs a player at every position, with mild capacity for fudging between 1st/3rd/LF.  So I doubt if your premise was to win this year you&#039;d really pick Ryan Zimmerman (the last 1B/3B/LFer) over, say, Orlando Hudson, or some other worthy second baseman.  Else all those pitchers at the top of your list might rebel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, the grammar (in case SI decides to move your blog to its blog): &#8220;if a big league pitchers strikes&#8221; should be &#8220;pitcher strikes&#8221;.</p>
<p>I have zero objections to your list.  None.  Yeah, many of your favorites were too high.  But you weren&#8217;t making a draft list.  You were listing the 100 best players, in your opinion, right now.  So somebody else thinks #84 should have been #48.  Big deal!  Who on your list didn&#8217;t belong on your list?  In fact, you listed a couple of guys I was questionable about so I went and looked them up, and my objections went away.  And that&#8217;s why I loved your list; you opened my eyes to some guys I didn&#8217;t know about (because I gave up hard core baseball studying for being a better father back in 1986 at my wife&#8217;s insistance, and haven&#8217;t gotten back into it now that the kid&#8217;s out of the house).</p>
<p>This wasn&#8217;t a fantasy draft order.  This was the guys you thought were the best 100 players in baseball right now, this season.  It was a fine list for that.  The guys having mediocre seasons historically were second half heroes, and everybody else was having a great season.  Be proud of that list*!  Good job!</p>
<p><i>Of course, maybe your next list could have an extra player or two from the team with the best record in baseball.  I mean, NINE Yankees?  Oh, wait, that&#8217;s right.  This is an SI article, and Yankees, or players who beat the Yankees, get way too much credit from media operations based in you know where.  Based on record, too many Red Sox as well.  I&#8217;ll give you too many Cardinals, since they&#8217;re local to you and you can hardly put on more Royals.  But if there&#8217;s ever a sign that New York media influences too many baseball decisions, it has to be your list.  The Yankees missed the playoff last year, don&#8217;t have the best record in baseball this year, but have the most players on your list.  Which Yankee am I going to throw off your list?  Um, er, well &#8211; psych!  Both starting pitchers.  I mean, no starter with an ERA above 3.5 and no more than +4 WL for the team with the second best record in baseball deserves to be on that list.</i></p>
<p>But if you want to be friendlier to your critics, group them in groups as follows: one position player from each of the eight positions, one utility player/DH (or slugging first baseman who doesn&#8217;t field well), four starting pitchers, one relievers, one other pitcher (could be starter, reliever, setup guy, whoever).  Put out six teams, add in the ten best guys who you couldn&#8217;t fit in for whatever reason at the end.  Because your list goes to #19 before finding the third outfielder, and the premise was, you need to win THIS year.  And I bet players 14-19 (I know, Manny&#8217;s the third outfielder at #19) wouldn&#8217;t be on your team, and #20 (Ichiro) would be.  The advantage of grouping them that way would be it becomes clear if bias is creeping in.  Every team needs a player at every position, with mild capacity for fudging between 1st/3rd/LF.  So I doubt if your premise was to win this year you&#8217;d really pick Ryan Zimmerman (the last 1B/3B/LFer) over, say, Orlando Hudson, or some other worthy second baseman.  Else all those pitchers at the top of your list might rebel.</p>
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		<title>By: Crown Gems on a Sunday (Links, News, and Notes) &#124; Kings of Kauffman &#124; A Kansas City Royals Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crown Gems on a Sunday (Links, News, and Notes) &#124; Kings of Kauffman &#124; A Kansas City Royals Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 02:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and Historic Ineptitude on Friday, I neglected to link Joe Posnanski&#8217;s Thursday post titled What 18-11 Means which fits in with the other links I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I try to give public figures who answer questions all the time some slack when they say stupid things.  However, I agree Moore&#039;s statemenst raise concern because, in addition to normal blather that any GM would state, they also reveal some analytical weaknesses.

Hillman is worse.  He continuously says things (with great confidence) that make no sense, e.g., the &quot;four out save&quot; silliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try to give public figures who answer questions all the time some slack when they say stupid things.  However, I agree Moore&#8217;s statemenst raise concern because, in addition to normal blather that any GM would state, they also reveal some analytical weaknesses.</p>
<p>Hillman is worse.  He continuously says things (with great confidence) that make no sense, e.g., the &#8220;four out save&#8221; silliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 03:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#59. Really? I know the guy plays good defense but he has a career .363 slugging percentage (.382 this year). His OPS isn&#039;t really much higher than Rod Barajas&#039;s, who&#039;s regarded as a great defensive catcher as well. Mike Napoli, Chris Iannetta, Miguel Montero, and Geovany Soto (despite his step back this year) are just a few guys with good reputations with the glove whose offensive numbers are much, much better than Molina&#039;s. Then you have guys like Posada and Pierzynski and Doumit and Brother Bengie who are not so great on defense but so much better with the bat you&#039;d think it&#039;d trump any difference with the glove. I&#039;d compare Yadier to a guy like Kurt Suzuki. Suzuki&#039;s a very good defensive catcher with better offensive numbers in a tougher park in the tougher league. No one&#039;s clamoring for Suzuki to be in the top 100.

I guess this is why lists like Joe&#039;s are so tough...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#59. Really? I know the guy plays good defense but he has a career .363 slugging percentage (.382 this year). His OPS isn&#8217;t really much higher than Rod Barajas&#8217;s, who&#8217;s regarded as a great defensive catcher as well. Mike Napoli, Chris Iannetta, Miguel Montero, and Geovany Soto (despite his step back this year) are just a few guys with good reputations with the glove whose offensive numbers are much, much better than Molina&#8217;s. Then you have guys like Posada and Pierzynski and Doumit and Brother Bengie who are not so great on defense but so much better with the bat you&#8217;d think it&#8217;d trump any difference with the glove. I&#8217;d compare Yadier to a guy like Kurt Suzuki. Suzuki&#8217;s a very good defensive catcher with better offensive numbers in a tougher park in the tougher league. No one&#8217;s clamoring for Suzuki to be in the top 100.</p>
<p>I guess this is why lists like Joe&#8217;s are so tough&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what does it mean that tonight Hoechever struck out 13 with no walks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what does it mean that tonight Hoechever struck out 13 with no walks?</p>
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		<title>By: smb</title>
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		<dc:creator>smb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it interesting that everyone likes to compare the first 29 games with the rest of the season.Why not look at their record for the year (now 38-58) to assess the team. This projects to 64-98 record. Pretty bad. I&#039;m optimistic the Royals will do better than that. The schedule for the first 29 games I believe overall was softer than the recent schedule (I didn&#039;t go through the stats of it but it seems that way). The schedule for the rest of the season looks more similar to the beginning of he season.
 The pitching has improved since Dayton came in.Offensively the team has regressed. I think partly because team management is as impatient as the fans and tried to find a quick fix for this year. It didn&#039;t work. I think if the Royals are ever going to be good again it will take patience to let the farm system develop Hopefully Dayton and staff are making the right moves at that level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting that everyone likes to compare the first 29 games with the rest of the season.Why not look at their record for the year (now 38-58) to assess the team. This projects to 64-98 record. Pretty bad. I&#8217;m optimistic the Royals will do better than that. The schedule for the first 29 games I believe overall was softer than the recent schedule (I didn&#8217;t go through the stats of it but it seems that way). The schedule for the rest of the season looks more similar to the beginning of he season.<br />
 The pitching has improved since Dayton came in.Offensively the team has regressed. I think partly because team management is as impatient as the fans and tried to find a quick fix for this year. It didn&#8217;t work. I think if the Royals are ever going to be good again it will take patience to let the farm system develop Hopefully Dayton and staff are making the right moves at that level.</p>
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		<title>By: J. McCann</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. McCann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 01:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it possible that the Royals plan is for the MLB team to suck as much as possible so that they can stock up on great draft picks like the Rays did?

That makes more sense to me than anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it possible that the Royals plan is for the MLB team to suck as much as possible so that they can stock up on great draft picks like the Rays did?</p>
<p>That makes more sense to me than anything.</p>
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