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		<title>By: TJ</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/06/07/big-finish/#comment-63659</link>
		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s no more about the end than it is about the beginning and the middle.  Not only true in sports but life in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s no more about the end than it is about the beginning and the middle.  Not only true in sports but life in general.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Finish</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/06/07/big-finish/#comment-63351</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Finish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about endings … inspired, I guess, by the Atlanta Braves’ decision to release Tom Glavine, on click for more             var gaJsHost = ((&quot;https:&quot; == document.location.protocol) ? &quot;https://ssl.&quot; : [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Juancho</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/06/07/big-finish/#comment-63204</link>
		<dc:creator>Juancho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cristiano Ronaldo, the soccer superstar from Portugal and Manchester United, has been sold to Real Madrid for €92 million, which is like $120 million or something like that. This does not include his salary, which is going to be like twenty million dollars a year, and his share of his &quot;image rights,&quot; which bring him in big bucks from endorsements and advertising.

Sylvinho, the unheralded but professional and competent left back for FC Barcelona, shut him down (with help from the rest of his back four, of course) barely two weeks ago in the European Champions League final.

Sylvinho probably made a million bucks a year before he retired, as the final was his last game, at least as a pro in Europe. He was no star, he was a Grudz who did his job and did it right. 

Every sport needs more of these guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cristiano Ronaldo, the soccer superstar from Portugal and Manchester United, has been sold to Real Madrid for €92 million, which is like $120 million or something like that. This does not include his salary, which is going to be like twenty million dollars a year, and his share of his &#8220;image rights,&#8221; which bring him in big bucks from endorsements and advertising.</p>
<p>Sylvinho, the unheralded but professional and competent left back for FC Barcelona, shut him down (with help from the rest of his back four, of course) barely two weeks ago in the European Champions League final.</p>
<p>Sylvinho probably made a million bucks a year before he retired, as the final was his last game, at least as a pro in Europe. He was no star, he was a Grudz who did his job and did it right. </p>
<p>Every sport needs more of these guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW--and I write this as one of the hardest-core Springsteen fans out there, so much so that my two young (3.5 and 2 yo) sons can both sing all of the lyrics to &quot;The River&quot; already--I think &quot;Outlaw Pete&quot; is a great song.

Carry on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW&#8211;and I write this as one of the hardest-core Springsteen fans out there, so much so that my two young (3.5 and 2 yo) sons can both sing all of the lyrics to &#8220;The River&#8221; already&#8211;I think &#8220;Outlaw Pete&#8221; is a great song.</p>
<p>Carry on.</p>
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		<title>By: David in NYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>David in NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If any of us were willing to get out at the top of our game there’d be no market for viagra.&quot;

Mikey #71 wins the thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If any of us were willing to get out at the top of our game there’d be no market for viagra.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mikey #71 wins the thread.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Boy</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/06/07/big-finish/#comment-62854</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!  Regarding Spahn, I&#039;m not so sure he gave up the notion of pitching again in the majors after 1965.  I seem to recall that he pitched in the Mexican League for a couple years, which leads me to believe he still held out hope of making it back to the bigs.  And I think that is the reason why his induction into the Hall of Fame was delayed, there was probably a rule saying you had to be fully retired from professional baseball for 5 years, not just from MLB.

As for perfect endings, my vote goes to Sandy Koufax.  He walked away from the game at age 30 after having won 53 games over his last two seasons and leading his team to back-to-back pennants.  Obviously it is a shame that his elbow problems curtailed his career but I think it was great that he was able to recognize that a few more seasons of baseball glory were not were having a crippled left arm for the final 40 or 50 years of his life.  Many players have held on for too long.  Koufax is one of the few who retired while still on top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  Regarding Spahn, I&#8217;m not so sure he gave up the notion of pitching again in the majors after 1965.  I seem to recall that he pitched in the Mexican League for a couple years, which leads me to believe he still held out hope of making it back to the bigs.  And I think that is the reason why his induction into the Hall of Fame was delayed, there was probably a rule saying you had to be fully retired from professional baseball for 5 years, not just from MLB.</p>
<p>As for perfect endings, my vote goes to Sandy Koufax.  He walked away from the game at age 30 after having won 53 games over his last two seasons and leading his team to back-to-back pennants.  Obviously it is a shame that his elbow problems curtailed his career but I think it was great that he was able to recognize that a few more seasons of baseball glory were not were having a crippled left arm for the final 40 or 50 years of his life.  Many players have held on for too long.  Koufax is one of the few who retired while still on top.</p>
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		<title>By: MSS</title>
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		<dc:creator>MSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,

If you&#039;re not Tivo&#039;ing &lt;i&gt;30 Rock&lt;/i&gt;, give your television away.

Also, since you seem to enjoy the odd &lt;i&gt;Amadeus&lt;/i&gt; reference, you should see the 13th episode of season two, in which Dr. Leo Spaceman races down a hallway, his cloak flaring behind him, to rescue Don Geiss from a diabetic coma, while NBC Page Kenneth Parcell peers around a corner bearing a lit candle, all set to Mozart&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Requiem&lt;/i&gt;. It also has this amazing exchange about writing a &quot;porn video game,&quot; which includes a popular internet meme of sorts about robotics and identity:

&lt;b&gt;Frank:&lt;/b&gt; A porn video game? It can&#039;t be done. Look, Trey, history&#039;s greatest perverts have tried it. Walt Disney, Larry Flynt, the Japanese. But they can&#039;t do it, because of The Uncanny Valley. Lemme show you something. Check out this chart. You see, as artificial representations of humans become more realistic, they reach a point where they stop being endearing and become creepy. 

&lt;b&gt;Tracy:&lt;/b&gt; Tell it to me in &quot;Star Wars.&quot; 

&lt;b&gt;Frank:&lt;/b&gt; All right. We like R2D2. AND C3PO. 

&lt;b&gt;Tracy:&lt;/b&gt; They&#039;re nice. 

&lt;b&gt;Frank:&lt;/b&gt; And up here we have a real person. Like Han Solo. 

&lt;b&gt;Tracy:&lt;/b&gt; He acts like he doesn&#039;t care, but he does. 

&lt;b&gt;Frank:&lt;/b&gt; But down here, we have a CGI stormtrooper, or Tom Hanks in &quot;The Polar Express.&quot; 

&lt;b&gt;Tracy:&lt;/b&gt; I&#039;M SCARED! GET ME OUTTA THERE! 

&lt;b&gt;Frank:&lt;/b&gt; That&#039;s the problem! You&#039;re in the Valley now. And it&#039;s impossible to get out. 

&lt;b&gt;Tracy:&lt;/b&gt; That&#039;s where you&#039;re wrong. I was born to design a video game where characters get weird with each other for golden points. My genius will not be denied. I&#039;m like Mozart. You like that guy that was always jealous of Mozart. 

&lt;b&gt;Frank:&lt;/b&gt; Salieri? 

&lt;b&gt;Tracy:&lt;/b&gt; NO THANK YOU. I already ate. You will not deter me. The world is gonna remember the name Tracy Jordan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not Tivo&#8217;ing <i>30 Rock</i>, give your television away.</p>
<p>Also, since you seem to enjoy the odd <i>Amadeus</i> reference, you should see the 13th episode of season two, in which Dr. Leo Spaceman races down a hallway, his cloak flaring behind him, to rescue Don Geiss from a diabetic coma, while NBC Page Kenneth Parcell peers around a corner bearing a lit candle, all set to Mozart&#8217;s <i>Requiem</i>. It also has this amazing exchange about writing a &#8220;porn video game,&#8221; which includes a popular internet meme of sorts about robotics and identity:</p>
<p><b>Frank:</b> A porn video game? It can&#8217;t be done. Look, Trey, history&#8217;s greatest perverts have tried it. Walt Disney, Larry Flynt, the Japanese. But they can&#8217;t do it, because of The Uncanny Valley. Lemme show you something. Check out this chart. You see, as artificial representations of humans become more realistic, they reach a point where they stop being endearing and become creepy. </p>
<p><b>Tracy:</b> Tell it to me in &#8220;Star Wars.&#8221; </p>
<p><b>Frank:</b> All right. We like R2D2. AND C3PO. </p>
<p><b>Tracy:</b> They&#8217;re nice. </p>
<p><b>Frank:</b> And up here we have a real person. Like Han Solo. </p>
<p><b>Tracy:</b> He acts like he doesn&#8217;t care, but he does. </p>
<p><b>Frank:</b> But down here, we have a CGI stormtrooper, or Tom Hanks in &#8220;The Polar Express.&#8221; </p>
<p><b>Tracy:</b> I&#8217;M SCARED! GET ME OUTTA THERE! </p>
<p><b>Frank:</b> That&#8217;s the problem! You&#8217;re in the Valley now. And it&#8217;s impossible to get out. </p>
<p><b>Tracy:</b> That&#8217;s where you&#8217;re wrong. I was born to design a video game where characters get weird with each other for golden points. My genius will not be denied. I&#8217;m like Mozart. You like that guy that was always jealous of Mozart. </p>
<p><b>Frank:</b> Salieri? </p>
<p><b>Tracy:</b> NO THANK YOU. I already ate. You will not deter me. The world is gonna remember the name Tracy Jordan!</p>
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		<title>By: Buchholz Surfer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buchholz Surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m no Mussina fan, but I do think it&#039;s kind of cool that after a few years of people talking about how he shouldn&#039;t make the Hall of Fame because he never won 20 games in a season, he finally wins 20 games-- and then retires. 

Has Pete Rose ruined the concept of the player-manager in baseball? I hope not, it&#039;d be fun to see another one. Just pick one who doesn&#039;t gamble. 

Maybe Jeter will be the next player-manager. I could see that, five years from now as manager of the Yankees, still playing himself at SS instead of A-Rod.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no Mussina fan, but I do think it&#8217;s kind of cool that after a few years of people talking about how he shouldn&#8217;t make the Hall of Fame because he never won 20 games in a season, he finally wins 20 games&#8211; and then retires. </p>
<p>Has Pete Rose ruined the concept of the player-manager in baseball? I hope not, it&#8217;d be fun to see another one. Just pick one who doesn&#8217;t gamble. </p>
<p>Maybe Jeter will be the next player-manager. I could see that, five years from now as manager of the Yankees, still playing himself at SS instead of A-Rod.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harmon Killebrew (great last name) ended up with Kansas City.  I remember reading about how Joe Hoerner was released from Kansas City.  He said &quot;the GM called me in, i was 39, and he said &quot;WE ARE GOING WITH YOUTH&quot;.  Then the next day, they signed Harmon Killebrew (40) - Good finish.

Ed Delehanty(HOF&#039;r)  dropped from sight - he fell between the train trestles after a night of drinking.  Unfortunately, it was a bridge near Niagra Falls.  They found his body a few days later... below the falls.

How did Rico Carty finish?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harmon Killebrew (great last name) ended up with Kansas City.  I remember reading about how Joe Hoerner was released from Kansas City.  He said &#8220;the GM called me in, i was 39, and he said &#8220;WE ARE GOING WITH YOUTH&#8221;.  Then the next day, they signed Harmon Killebrew (40) &#8211; Good finish.</p>
<p>Ed Delehanty(HOF&#8217;r)  dropped from sight &#8211; he fell between the train trestles after a night of drinking.  Unfortunately, it was a bridge near Niagra Falls.  They found his body a few days later&#8230; below the falls.</p>
<p>How did Rico Carty finish?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with what several people have said about Brett Favre regarding his apparent need for attention.  It&#039;s very similar to the way Clemens would faux retire every year near the end (and quite possibly would still be doing so if the steroid issues hadn&#039;t come up.)  For more on this point I heartily reccomend Jeff Pearlman&#039;s &quot;A Rocket Fell to Earth&quot;, which is quite good, though it shares a problem with his &quot;Boys will be Boys&quot; book about the early nineties Cowboys, namely that Pearlman will twist the statistic of any game to make the point he wants to make.  This causes things like a pitching line of 4.2 innings, 5 hit, two walks, 2 earned runs to be described as superb while one of 6 innings, 7 hits, 1 walk, and two earned runs to be merely adequate depending on the point he is making at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with what several people have said about Brett Favre regarding his apparent need for attention.  It&#8217;s very similar to the way Clemens would faux retire every year near the end (and quite possibly would still be doing so if the steroid issues hadn&#8217;t come up.)  For more on this point I heartily reccomend Jeff Pearlman&#8217;s &#8220;A Rocket Fell to Earth&#8221;, which is quite good, though it shares a problem with his &#8220;Boys will be Boys&#8221; book about the early nineties Cowboys, namely that Pearlman will twist the statistic of any game to make the point he wants to make.  This causes things like a pitching line of 4.2 innings, 5 hit, two walks, 2 earned runs to be described as superb while one of 6 innings, 7 hits, 1 walk, and two earned runs to be merely adequate depending on the point he is making at the time.</p>
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