Comments on: BillFacts: National League East http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/04/30/billfacts-national-league-east/ A Rough Draft Blog Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:03:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Richard http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/04/30/billfacts-national-league-east/#comment-59140 Richard Sat, 02 May 2009 00:57:42 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/04/30/billfacts-national-league-east/#comment-59140 Re: Rick Manning Manning wore uniform number 28 until Bert Blyleven came to Cleveland. Manning relinquished number 28 to Blyleven and wore number 20. Re: Rick Manning

Manning wore uniform number 28 until Bert Blyleven came to Cleveland. Manning relinquished number 28 to Blyleven and wore number 20.

]]> By: Owen http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/04/30/billfacts-national-league-east/#comment-59137 Owen Fri, 01 May 2009 23:38:41 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/04/30/billfacts-national-league-east/#comment-59137 Fan of the Mets and New Jersey Devils (pucks, ice, sticks). I'm having one of those moments where it feels like the entire point of the sporting world is to make me feel despair. It, and the time, are the rent I pay for those moments of brilliance. Glad you're here Joe, to make it good no matter what. I mean, seriously, they're acting like they don't DESERVE Santana! He's a Met! Make it count! Fan of the Mets and New Jersey Devils (pucks, ice, sticks). I’m having one of those moments where it feels like the entire point of the sporting world is to make me feel despair. It, and the time, are the rent I pay for those moments of brilliance. Glad you’re here Joe, to make it good no matter what.

I mean, seriously, they’re acting like they don’t DESERVE Santana! He’s a Met! Make it count!

]]> By: Zach http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/04/30/billfacts-national-league-east/#comment-59119 Zach Fri, 01 May 2009 20:18:25 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/04/30/billfacts-national-league-east/#comment-59119 I came up with a system similar to this a few years back as an indirect way of looking at baserunning runs scored = (H+BB)*team slugging percentage. RBI = (Total bases)*team OBP http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/newsstand/discussion/lowell_sun_scoggins/ I also worked out linear weights values, but I can't find them with a google search. I came up with a system similar to this a few years back as an indirect way of looking at baserunning

runs scored = (H+BB)*team slugging percentage.
RBI = (Total bases)*team OBP

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/newsstand/discussion/lowell_sun_scoggins/

I also worked out linear weights values, but I can’t find them with a google search.

]]> By: Bob http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/04/30/billfacts-national-league-east/#comment-59094 Bob Fri, 01 May 2009 18:03:05 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/04/30/billfacts-national-league-east/#comment-59094 And this year, it's not just the Mets bullpen causing headaches for Johan. Ed Coleman from WFAN pointed out the other day that the Mets are hitting under .100 with runners in scoring position for him. (They are 5 for 51.) And they leave an average of 10 men on per Johan start in 2009. And this year, it’s not just the Mets bullpen causing headaches for Johan. Ed Coleman from WFAN pointed out the other day that the Mets are hitting under .100 with runners in scoring position for him. (They are 5 for 51.) And they leave an average of 10 men on per Johan start in 2009.

]]> By: Mike Bagnall http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/04/30/billfacts-national-league-east/#comment-59057 Mike Bagnall Fri, 01 May 2009 14:54:51 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/04/30/billfacts-national-league-east/#comment-59057 When my Tigers pulled the plug on Mike Maroth a couple years back, the team's record in gamees he started was excellent, though his own numbers were pretty bad. I thought at the time he had been treated quite shabbily by the team, but his lack of success since then seems to suggest the team's judgement was correct. When my Tigers pulled the plug on Mike Maroth a couple years back, the team’s record in gamees he started was excellent, though his own numbers were pretty bad. I thought at the time he had been treated quite shabbily by the team, but his lack of success since then seems to suggest the team’s judgement was correct.

]]> By: Geoffrey http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/04/30/billfacts-national-league-east/#comment-59056 Geoffrey Fri, 01 May 2009 14:23:13 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/04/30/billfacts-national-league-east/#comment-59056 @25 Aaron M. Good idea, to see which players are the best at driving in runs independent of batting position. I don't think it would show who is clutch though. It would more likely, I assume, be a list with mostly the best hitters in the league and players who hit well with runners in scoring position that year. Would be interesting to see if anyone else wa identified who doesn't fit into one of those two categories though. To the Mets fans, think Manual/Minaya suck? Try putting up with Sabean*/Bochy like us Giants fans do. *I think Sabean has started to perform slightly better recently compared to teh last few years but Bochy, ugh! @25 Aaron M.

Good idea, to see which players are the best at driving in runs independent of batting position. I don’t think it would show who is clutch though. It would more likely, I assume, be a list with mostly the best hitters in the league and players who hit well with runners in scoring position that year. Would be interesting to see if anyone else wa identified who doesn’t fit into one of those two categories though.

To the Mets fans, think Manual/Minaya suck? Try putting up with Sabean*/Bochy like us Giants fans do.

*I think Sabean has started to perform slightly better recently compared to teh last few years but Bochy, ugh!

]]> By: Simon Oliver Lockwood http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/04/30/billfacts-national-league-east/#comment-59054 Simon Oliver Lockwood Fri, 01 May 2009 13:43:25 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/04/30/billfacts-national-league-east/#comment-59054 Regarding RBIs forgone, I thought I'd check out Bobby Bonds as he was basically the proto-Sizemore / Soriano in terms of power-hitting lead-off men. Here are his numbers for his peak. 1969: He actually hit leadoff in less than half his starts -- Fuentes took the leadoff spot when he came up and Bonds was moved to 5th to protect McCovey. 1970: -31.5 RBI +25 R 1971: hit leadoff in less than half his starts -- mostly due to McCovey being hurt. 1972: -16 RBI +24.5 R -- leadoff was the best place for him that year 1973: -28 RBI +13 R 1974: -11.5 RBI +4 R 1975: -15 RBI -8 R -- He batted 3rd in 33 G and hit .190 / .301 / .355 there. Regarding RBIs forgone, I thought I’d check out Bobby Bonds as he was basically the proto-Sizemore / Soriano in terms of power-hitting lead-off men. Here are his numbers for his peak.

1969: He actually hit leadoff in less than half his starts — Fuentes took the leadoff spot when he came up and Bonds was moved to 5th to protect McCovey.
1970: -31.5 RBI +25 R
1971: hit leadoff in less than half his starts — mostly due to McCovey being hurt.
1972: -16 RBI +24.5 R — leadoff was the best place for him that year
1973: -28 RBI +13 R
1974: -11.5 RBI +4 R
1975: -15 RBI -8 R — He batted 3rd in 33 G and hit .190 / .301 / .355 there.

]]> By: Albanate http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/04/30/billfacts-national-league-east/#comment-59043 Albanate Fri, 01 May 2009 10:19:38 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/04/30/billfacts-national-league-east/#comment-59043 Interesting note about Tim Redding. There was another interesting post about him on Amazin Avenue about a month ago that pointed out that he faced baseball's toughest opposition last year, so his mediocrity might be overstated a bit. Here is a link to that post: http://www.amazinavenue.com/2009/2/2/744160/is-there-anything-to-like Nate Interesting note about Tim Redding. There was another interesting post about him on Amazin Avenue about a month ago that pointed out that he faced baseball’s toughest opposition last year, so his mediocrity might be overstated a bit. Here is a link to that post:

http://www.amazinavenue.com/2009/2/2/744160/is-there-anything-to-like

Nate

]]> By: Jacob http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/04/30/billfacts-national-league-east/#comment-59040 Jacob Fri, 01 May 2009 08:31:36 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/04/30/billfacts-national-league-east/#comment-59040 East coast bias strikes again! East coast bias strikes again!

]]> By: Aaron M. http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/04/30/billfacts-national-league-east/#comment-59032 Aaron M. Fri, 01 May 2009 05:10:02 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/04/30/billfacts-national-league-east/#comment-59032 So instead of giving plus/minus numbers for the RBI over/under-achievers, Bill could take the expected percentage with runners on base and use it to manipulate that list into who the best RBI men are regardless of where they bat, and how many total RBIs they have. In fact, it may represent a clutchiness stat. Where if a guy can repeatedly hit the top of the list, they can be considered clutch. For the record, I don't believe in clutchiness, but it could be interesting. So instead of giving plus/minus numbers for the RBI over/under-achievers, Bill could take the expected percentage with runners on base and use it to manipulate that list into who the best RBI men are regardless of where they bat, and how many total RBIs they have. In fact, it may represent a clutchiness stat. Where if a guy can repeatedly hit the top of the list, they can be considered clutch.

For the record, I don’t believe in clutchiness, but it could be interesting.

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