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		<title>By: Vern Morrison</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/02/06/hall-jr-nominee-the-hero/#comment-51538</link>
		<dc:creator>Vern Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,

   I work for the Cleveland State University Library, which administers the Cleveland Memory Project.  
  
   The photo in question was taken for the Cleveland Press by Paul Tepley.  The Press ceased publication after the issue of June 17, 1982.  A year or two later, the editorial library of the Press--approximately one million clippings and about 500,000 photographs--was donated to the CSU Library.  We have digitized approximately 25,000 of these photographs, and have put low-res versions of them online.  

   We don&#039;t purport to own copyright of the Press images, but we allow reproduction of them for &quot;purposes of research, scholarship, teaching, news reporting, criticism, or comment.&quot;  Surely your use of this photo meets at least one of these criteria, so it&#039;s more than OK with us that you put on your blog.

   You ought to have at least thrown us a link, though.  Since you didn&#039;t, allow me:

http://www.clevelandmemory.org

   There&#039;s a &quot;find images&quot; box in the upper right.  Feel free to browse around.  I think we have all of the Press photos of the Cleveland Indians, Browns, and Cavaliers online.  

    We offer hi-res versions of Cleveland Memory photos for a modest fee, either as digital images, 8 x 10&quot; reproductions, or poster-size reproductions.  See

http://www.clevelandmemory.org/reproductions/services.shtml

for a full list of services and fees.

   Of course, there are hundreds of thousands of Press photos which are not (yet) online.  People in the Cleveland area are welcome to view these photos in person at the Special Collections unit of the CSU Library.  Special Collections is open from 10 AM to 5 PM Mondays through Fridays, except for most holidays.

   Thanks for letting me plug our site, and keep up the great work.

Vern Morrison
Digital Production Unit
Cleveland State University Library</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>   I work for the Cleveland State University Library, which administers the Cleveland Memory Project.  </p>
<p>   The photo in question was taken for the Cleveland Press by Paul Tepley.  The Press ceased publication after the issue of June 17, 1982.  A year or two later, the editorial library of the Press&#8211;approximately one million clippings and about 500,000 photographs&#8211;was donated to the CSU Library.  We have digitized approximately 25,000 of these photographs, and have put low-res versions of them online.  </p>
<p>   We don&#8217;t purport to own copyright of the Press images, but we allow reproduction of them for &#8220;purposes of research, scholarship, teaching, news reporting, criticism, or comment.&#8221;  Surely your use of this photo meets at least one of these criteria, so it&#8217;s more than OK with us that you put on your blog.</p>
<p>   You ought to have at least thrown us a link, though.  Since you didn&#8217;t, allow me:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.clevelandmemory.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.clevelandmemory.org</a></p>
<p>   There&#8217;s a &#8220;find images&#8221; box in the upper right.  Feel free to browse around.  I think we have all of the Press photos of the Cleveland Indians, Browns, and Cavaliers online.  </p>
<p>    We offer hi-res versions of Cleveland Memory photos for a modest fee, either as digital images, 8 x 10&#8243; reproductions, or poster-size reproductions.  See</p>
<p><a href="http://www.clevelandmemory.org/reproductions/services.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.clevelandmemory.org/reproductions/services.shtml</a></p>
<p>for a full list of services and fees.</p>
<p>   Of course, there are hundreds of thousands of Press photos which are not (yet) online.  People in the Cleveland area are welcome to view these photos in person at the Special Collections unit of the CSU Library.  Special Collections is open from 10 AM to 5 PM Mondays through Fridays, except for most holidays.</p>
<p>   Thanks for letting me plug our site, and keep up the great work.</p>
<p>Vern Morrison<br />
Digital Production Unit<br />
Cleveland State University Library</p>
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		<title>By: David in NYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>David in NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Mike &quot;The Human Rain Delay&quot; Hargrove reminded me of one of my favorite hypothetical situations:

Mike Hargrove is batting, Carlton Fisk is the catcher, and Sid Fernandez is the pitcher.

What&#039;s the over/under on the time of this at bat?  I say at least 30 minutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Mike &#8220;The Human Rain Delay&#8221; Hargrove reminded me of one of my favorite hypothetical situations:</p>
<p>Mike Hargrove is batting, Carlton Fisk is the catcher, and Sid Fernandez is the pitcher.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the over/under on the time of this at bat?  I say at least 30 minutes.</p>
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		<title>By: Buchholz Surfer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buchholz Surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The KC-Brewers game: 26 runs scored, many pitching changes, time of game: 2 hours, 29 minutes.

Far fewer commercials back then of course.

If Hargrove had played in it, it would have taken 15 minutes longer. Now it seems like every hitter takes as long as Hargrove used to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The KC-Brewers game: 26 runs scored, many pitching changes, time of game: 2 hours, 29 minutes.</p>
<p>Far fewer commercials back then of course.</p>
<p>If Hargrove had played in it, it would have taken 15 minutes longer. Now it seems like every hitter takes as long as Hargrove used to.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin U.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin U.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 09:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duane Kuiper doesn&#039;t have near the fame (name recognition) as the following player.*  After all, how many players have a metric named after them?  I nominate for the Hall of Fame Jr.:

Mario Mendoza
Player
Reason not in the Hall: De-emphasis of traditional statistics by modern day sabermetricians in favor of things like OPS+ and Win Shares
Achievement: Creation of the &#039;Mendoza Line&#039;

Although the .200 batting average existed prior to Mario, he popularized it and cemented it in the minds of fans much like Magic Johnson did the triple-double.  An underrated player, his career batting average was actually a full 15 points higher than the benchmark for which he is known.  Mendoza managed to play in the majors for nearly a decade, despite batting so poorly.  His longevity and consistency were key to gaining namesake status for his hitting (or lack thereof.) He also made the post-season in 1974, and did not disappoint, fittingly going 1-for-5.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/mendoma01.shtml

*I grew up in Seattle, so I&#039;ll respect Joe&#039;s hometown bias for a Cleveland player if he respects mine for a former Mariner. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duane Kuiper doesn&#8217;t have near the fame (name recognition) as the following player.*  After all, how many players have a metric named after them?  I nominate for the Hall of Fame Jr.:</p>
<p>Mario Mendoza<br />
Player<br />
Reason not in the Hall: De-emphasis of traditional statistics by modern day sabermetricians in favor of things like OPS+ and Win Shares<br />
Achievement: Creation of the &#8216;Mendoza Line&#8217;</p>
<p>Although the .200 batting average existed prior to Mario, he popularized it and cemented it in the minds of fans much like Magic Johnson did the triple-double.  An underrated player, his career batting average was actually a full 15 points higher than the benchmark for which he is known.  Mendoza managed to play in the majors for nearly a decade, despite batting so poorly.  His longevity and consistency were key to gaining namesake status for his hitting (or lack thereof.) He also made the post-season in 1974, and did not disappoint, fittingly going 1-for-5.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/mendoma01.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/mendoma01.shtml</a></p>
<p>*I grew up in Seattle, so I&#8217;ll respect Joe&#8217;s hometown bias for a Cleveland player if he respects mine for a former Mariner. <img src='http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Graphite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graphite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 23:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris
Of course, Crabapple Cove. It all makes sense now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris<br />
Of course, Crabapple Cove. It all makes sense now.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where the F did Joe&#039;s A-Rod thing go?  It was up last night at like one and now it&#039;s gone.  When I didn&#039;t read it.  WHY!

Editor&#039;s note: There is a reason the A-Rod post is down. I&#039;ll fill everyone in when things are finalized. It&#039;s not a bad thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where the F did Joe&#8217;s A-Rod thing go?  It was up last night at like one and now it&#8217;s gone.  When I didn&#8217;t read it.  WHY!</p>
<p>Editor&#8217;s note: There is a reason the A-Rod post is down. I&#8217;ll fill everyone in when things are finalized. It&#8217;s not a bad thing.</p>
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		<title>By: free rape</title>
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		<dc:creator>free rape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hall Jr. Nominee: The Hero Â» Joe Posnanski [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike in Hawaii</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike in Hawaii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 03:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bull was slightly before my time, I started following the White Sox around the 1990 second place finish.  

Can&#039;t wait to read Joe&#039;s thoughts on A-Rod.  Even though I didn&#039;t like him as a player, at least I thought he was clean.

Here is a partial list of your MVPs since 1996: Caminiti, Bonds, Sosa, Tejada, Juan Gone, Giambi.

Cy Youngs:  A whole lot of Roger Clemens, and Eric Gagne.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bull was slightly before my time, I started following the White Sox around the 1990 second place finish.  </p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait to read Joe&#8217;s thoughts on A-Rod.  Even though I didn&#8217;t like him as a player, at least I thought he was clean.</p>
<p>Here is a partial list of your MVPs since 1996: Caminiti, Bonds, Sosa, Tejada, Juan Gone, Giambi.</p>
<p>Cy Youngs:  A whole lot of Roger Clemens, and Eric Gagne.</p>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 23:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s not the appropriate format, but there&#039;s a compelling case for John Young, founder of RBI, made here:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dodgerthoughts/2009/02/february-6.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s not the appropriate format, but there&#8217;s a compelling case for John Young, founder of RBI, made here:</p>
<p><a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dodgerthoughts/2009/02/february-6.html" rel="nofollow">http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dodgerthoughts/2009/02/february-6.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: ajnrules</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajnrules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So wait, once Joe finishes listing all the nominees, are we going to vote on them to see if they can get to the 75% barrier?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So wait, once Joe finishes listing all the nominees, are we going to vote on them to see if they can get to the 75% barrier?</p>
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