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		<title>By: wiener</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/10/02/cubs-vs-dodgers/#comment-35174</link>
		<dc:creator>wiener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I know we hear a lot about how the Dodgers GM (Colleti) is getting credit now when he shouldnâ€™t be because he made a shit load of mistakes.  I was curious the payroll of the starters compared to the guys that are not playing that colleti signed for big bucks.  The playoff starting lineup, including 4 starting pitchers and their closer, is only 6.5 million less that the 6 big mistakes that arenâ€™t playing (see below).  And this is including Mannyâ€™s 20 mill salary, which actually the dodgers arenâ€™t paying, so that moves it to 12 million under the 6 big mistakes.  Also it should be noted that Rafael furcal and his 15.2 mill salary are starting now, even though he missed 122 games this season.  If you replace him with berroa, then it really looks ridiculous. 

dodger starters in playoffs		salary	bench or IR	salary
		millions		millions
1B	Loney	0.4	Nomar	9.5
2B	dewitt	0.4	kent	9
3B	blake	6.1		
SS	furcal	15.7		
C	martin	0.5		
LF	manny	20	pierre	8
CF	kemp	0.4	jones	14.7
RF	either	0.4		
SP	lowe	10	penny	9.2
SP	kuroda	7.4	schmidt	15.2
SP	billingsley	0.4		
SP	maddux	10		
RP	braxton	0.4		

	total	72.1		65.6</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I know we hear a lot about how the Dodgers GM (Colleti) is getting credit now when he shouldnâ€™t be because he made a shit load of mistakes.  I was curious the payroll of the starters compared to the guys that are not playing that colleti signed for big bucks.  The playoff starting lineup, including 4 starting pitchers and their closer, is only 6.5 million less that the 6 big mistakes that arenâ€™t playing (see below).  And this is including Mannyâ€™s 20 mill salary, which actually the dodgers arenâ€™t paying, so that moves it to 12 million under the 6 big mistakes.  Also it should be noted that Rafael furcal and his 15.2 mill salary are starting now, even though he missed 122 games this season.  If you replace him with berroa, then it really looks ridiculous. </p>
<p>dodger starters in playoffs		salary	bench or IR	salary<br />
		millions		millions<br />
1B	Loney	0.4	Nomar	9.5<br />
2B	dewitt	0.4	kent	9<br />
3B	blake	6.1<br />
SS	furcal	15.7<br />
C	martin	0.5<br />
LF	manny	20	pierre	8<br />
CF	kemp	0.4	jones	14.7<br />
RF	either	0.4<br />
SP	lowe	10	penny	9.2<br />
SP	kuroda	7.4	schmidt	15.2<br />
SP	billingsley	0.4<br />
SP	maddux	10<br />
RP	braxton	0.4		</p>
<p>	total	72.1		65.6</p>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/10/02/cubs-vs-dodgers/#comment-34892</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, I think overall you&#039;re pretty much right on it, but a couple nits I must pick: I don&#039;t think Theriot over Furcal, even with the latter being an unknown due to injury, is a slam dunk, given that a healthy Furcal is a far superior player offensively and defensively.  Going into the series, I would call them a pick &#039;em - it&#039;s safe mediocrity (perhaps slightly above-average) vs. anything from star to hobbled and immobile.

Also, Broxton had a 0.79 ERA in September - Saito may have been hurt, but the Dodger closer position was still a strength coming in and every bit the equal to Wood (who, by the way, had a 6.75 ERA in September), especially given Broxton&#039;s utter dominance of righties (as noted earlier, .442 OPS against).

Agree with both you and Brent that the Phillies are a tougher matchup for the Dodgers, not so much in terms of pitching beyond Hamels (I wouldn&#039;t trust Myers, Moyer, or Blanton too much in the postseason) as in terms of a more balanced lineup of righties, lefties, and switch-hitters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, I think overall you&#8217;re pretty much right on it, but a couple nits I must pick: I don&#8217;t think Theriot over Furcal, even with the latter being an unknown due to injury, is a slam dunk, given that a healthy Furcal is a far superior player offensively and defensively.  Going into the series, I would call them a pick &#8216;em &#8211; it&#8217;s safe mediocrity (perhaps slightly above-average) vs. anything from star to hobbled and immobile.</p>
<p>Also, Broxton had a 0.79 ERA in September &#8211; Saito may have been hurt, but the Dodger closer position was still a strength coming in and every bit the equal to Wood (who, by the way, had a 6.75 ERA in September), especially given Broxton&#8217;s utter dominance of righties (as noted earlier, .442 OPS against).</p>
<p>Agree with both you and Brent that the Phillies are a tougher matchup for the Dodgers, not so much in terms of pitching beyond Hamels (I wouldn&#8217;t trust Myers, Moyer, or Blanton too much in the postseason) as in terms of a more balanced lineup of righties, lefties, and switch-hitters.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/10/02/cubs-vs-dodgers/#comment-34874</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard:

Agree with everything you said, but maybe you understated the LH hitting of the Phillies vs. the Cubs.  The Cubs best LH is ostensibly Fukudome, but in actuality by the end of the year it was Edmonds or Fontenot, one of whom is historically inconsistent and the other isn&#039;t going to scare anyone with his power.  So, load up on RH starting pitchers and neutralize the Cubs biggest bats (throw breaking balls to Soriano and Ramirez and pitch Lee away and keep him in the ballpark) and you basically have their number.

Those RH starters of the Dodgers are going to find pitching to Utley, Howard, Rollins, Victorino, Dobbs to be entirely different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard:</p>
<p>Agree with everything you said, but maybe you understated the LH hitting of the Phillies vs. the Cubs.  The Cubs best LH is ostensibly Fukudome, but in actuality by the end of the year it was Edmonds or Fontenot, one of whom is historically inconsistent and the other isn&#8217;t going to scare anyone with his power.  So, load up on RH starting pitchers and neutralize the Cubs biggest bats (throw breaking balls to Soriano and Ramirez and pitch Lee away and keep him in the ballpark) and you basically have their number.</p>
<p>Those RH starters of the Dodgers are going to find pitching to Utley, Howard, Rollins, Victorino, Dobbs to be entirely different.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Aronson</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/10/02/cubs-vs-dodgers/#comment-34774</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Aronson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 19:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seattle had the worst record in the AL this year, winning only 61 games.  The Angels had the best record in baseball this year, with 100 victories.  And yet, over the course of the season, Seattle beat the Angels five times, and actually won the first series between the two back in April.  In a short series, anything can and will happen.  I *think* that with Manny, the Cubs and the Dodgers were the two best teams in the National League.  But it&#039;s not just *with* Manny. It&#039;s without Penny, who was dreadful before going on the DL for good.  It&#039;s without Jones, whose weight seems to be about 100 points heavier and his OPS+ 100 points lighter than what the Dodgers thought they were getting.  It&#039;s with Furcal instead of, well, not so much Berroa, who was by far the second best shortstop the Dodgers had this season overall, but without Chin-Lung Hu (good fielder, though) whose OPS this season was .485; without Ozuna (.617) who could not field shortstop well enough, without Maza (.561), and even with Kent coming on strong after Manny arrived (OPS for the year .745, slightly better than DeWitt) it&#039;s with a double play combination of Furcal and Blake that prevents runs instead of allowing them.  Part of the pitching improvement late comes from better middle defense, with Berroa and DeWitt providing good range up the middle, and Furcal doing better than that.  It&#039;s with Casey Blake and without Andy LaRoche; I wish LaRoche well, and I know that hand and wrist injuries frequently take more than a year to fully regain the timing, but he wasn&#039;t a big league hitter this season.
 
It wasn&#039;t just that the Dodgers were bad so much of the year, it&#039;s that the Dodgers had to play a lot of replacement players who were not as good as replacement players.  Like or dislike Juan Pierre, his OBP for the year was .328, and given his lack of power he needs to get on base more like .350 to be helping the team in his 375 at bats.  Furcal being back means there is no reason to give Pierre at bats as a leadoff hitter, and puts Ethier (OPS .885) in the lineup instead.  If I had the Dodgers as a Strat-o-Matic team with tight innings and at bat limits, I&#039;d expect them to finish about where they did.  But I&#039;d also expect to be able to win almost any single series I set my sights on by playing the good limited cards (Furcal, Manny, Blake) in those series.  In the majors, of course, there are no at bat limits except from health and competition.
 
So I think that right now the Dodgers are the best they&#039;ve been this season, and by a lot.  Torre has finally figured out that Nomar is a great hitter versus LHP, and not worth playing otherwise.  The pitching staff is well rested.  Heck, Greg Maddux responded to long rest (eight days off) by winning his last game with 48 pitches over 6 innings, one run allowed.  So maybe at his age he&#039;s better off being a great spot starter than an every fifth day guy; he certainly has the experience to still throw strikes instead of showing rust.

Given all that, I still thought the Cubs were the better team overall.  Anybody who would rather have gone into the playoffs with James Loney (OPS+ 98 for the season, great fielder who makes stupid errors) instead of Derrek Lee (OPS+ 111 for the season, and a great fielder period) is deluding themselves based on results.  Soto had a better year than Martin.  Furcal played in all of 40 games, and nothing he did in September prepared us for how well he has played in October.  So the Cubs clearly win all five infield spots, have a better closer with Saito and Broxton being so shaky in September, and have comparable if not superior starting pitching.  Outfield and middle relief ain&#039;t enough to swing that difference, if everybody plays like they did during the season.  If you are going to compare the eight batters, four starting pitchers, and closer, the Cubs looked likely to win eight of those 13 comparisons *BEFORE* you look at what actually happened in the playoffs.  Then the Dodgers got a .467 OBP out of Furcal, Martin and Loney both could have been chosen as the series MVP instead of Manny, and the Cubs matched that with only one guy who hit at all well.  Four hitters make an offense.  One hitter makes a loser.  That&#039;s what happens in short series.
 
Next series?  The Phillies are not as good as the Cubs, but they match up much better with the Dodgers.  Their LHP significantly weakens Ethier and Loney (DeWitt&#039;s backwards; Nomar will probably replace Loney, but he&#039;s not as good a fielder) and they have more significant left handed hitters against the Dodgers.  I&#039;m sure the Cubs would rather have faced the Phillies, but they controlled their destiny and not only let the Brewers into the playoffs but didn&#039;t even set up their starting pitching properly.  I don&#039;t expect the next round to be a sweep for either team.  The Phillies and Dodgers played eight games after the Dodgers got Manny, with each team sweeping four games at home.  I expect a tight balanced series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seattle had the worst record in the AL this year, winning only 61 games.  The Angels had the best record in baseball this year, with 100 victories.  And yet, over the course of the season, Seattle beat the Angels five times, and actually won the first series between the two back in April.  In a short series, anything can and will happen.  I *think* that with Manny, the Cubs and the Dodgers were the two best teams in the National League.  But it&#8217;s not just *with* Manny. It&#8217;s without Penny, who was dreadful before going on the DL for good.  It&#8217;s without Jones, whose weight seems to be about 100 points heavier and his OPS+ 100 points lighter than what the Dodgers thought they were getting.  It&#8217;s with Furcal instead of, well, not so much Berroa, who was by far the second best shortstop the Dodgers had this season overall, but without Chin-Lung Hu (good fielder, though) whose OPS this season was .485; without Ozuna (.617) who could not field shortstop well enough, without Maza (.561), and even with Kent coming on strong after Manny arrived (OPS for the year .745, slightly better than DeWitt) it&#8217;s with a double play combination of Furcal and Blake that prevents runs instead of allowing them.  Part of the pitching improvement late comes from better middle defense, with Berroa and DeWitt providing good range up the middle, and Furcal doing better than that.  It&#8217;s with Casey Blake and without Andy LaRoche; I wish LaRoche well, and I know that hand and wrist injuries frequently take more than a year to fully regain the timing, but he wasn&#8217;t a big league hitter this season.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t just that the Dodgers were bad so much of the year, it&#8217;s that the Dodgers had to play a lot of replacement players who were not as good as replacement players.  Like or dislike Juan Pierre, his OBP for the year was .328, and given his lack of power he needs to get on base more like .350 to be helping the team in his 375 at bats.  Furcal being back means there is no reason to give Pierre at bats as a leadoff hitter, and puts Ethier (OPS .885) in the lineup instead.  If I had the Dodgers as a Strat-o-Matic team with tight innings and at bat limits, I&#8217;d expect them to finish about where they did.  But I&#8217;d also expect to be able to win almost any single series I set my sights on by playing the good limited cards (Furcal, Manny, Blake) in those series.  In the majors, of course, there are no at bat limits except from health and competition.</p>
<p>So I think that right now the Dodgers are the best they&#8217;ve been this season, and by a lot.  Torre has finally figured out that Nomar is a great hitter versus LHP, and not worth playing otherwise.  The pitching staff is well rested.  Heck, Greg Maddux responded to long rest (eight days off) by winning his last game with 48 pitches over 6 innings, one run allowed.  So maybe at his age he&#8217;s better off being a great spot starter than an every fifth day guy; he certainly has the experience to still throw strikes instead of showing rust.</p>
<p>Given all that, I still thought the Cubs were the better team overall.  Anybody who would rather have gone into the playoffs with James Loney (OPS+ 98 for the season, great fielder who makes stupid errors) instead of Derrek Lee (OPS+ 111 for the season, and a great fielder period) is deluding themselves based on results.  Soto had a better year than Martin.  Furcal played in all of 40 games, and nothing he did in September prepared us for how well he has played in October.  So the Cubs clearly win all five infield spots, have a better closer with Saito and Broxton being so shaky in September, and have comparable if not superior starting pitching.  Outfield and middle relief ain&#8217;t enough to swing that difference, if everybody plays like they did during the season.  If you are going to compare the eight batters, four starting pitchers, and closer, the Cubs looked likely to win eight of those 13 comparisons *BEFORE* you look at what actually happened in the playoffs.  Then the Dodgers got a .467 OBP out of Furcal, Martin and Loney both could have been chosen as the series MVP instead of Manny, and the Cubs matched that with only one guy who hit at all well.  Four hitters make an offense.  One hitter makes a loser.  That&#8217;s what happens in short series.</p>
<p>Next series?  The Phillies are not as good as the Cubs, but they match up much better with the Dodgers.  Their LHP significantly weakens Ethier and Loney (DeWitt&#8217;s backwards; Nomar will probably replace Loney, but he&#8217;s not as good a fielder) and they have more significant left handed hitters against the Dodgers.  I&#8217;m sure the Cubs would rather have faced the Phillies, but they controlled their destiny and not only let the Brewers into the playoffs but didn&#8217;t even set up their starting pitching properly.  I don&#8217;t expect the next round to be a sweep for either team.  The Phillies and Dodgers played eight games after the Dodgers got Manny, with each team sweeping four games at home.  I expect a tight balanced series.</p>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 15:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rod, the Mets would laugh and hang up if the Cubs offered Soriano for Beltran - Beltran has been better offensively over the last three years, is far better defensively at a tougher position, and is a year younger.

Also, ignoring for a moment the fact that the Dodgers just swept the Cubs, I&#039;d disagree with you on a couple of the positions - Soto had  a better year than Martin (going into next year, I&#039;d make them a push), and I&#039;d say Lee and Loney are a push (but yes, for the future I&#039;d rather have Loney).  Game 1 aside, Dempster was very slightly better than Lowe, though I&#039;d agree with some previous comments and say Billingsley&#039;s better than Zambrano at this point.  A healthy Harden is definitely better than Kuroda, and Lilly&#039;s better than Maddux/Kershaw (at this point); that said, Broxton and Wood are a push and the Dodgers pen overall is better.  By my tally, including game 3 and 4 starters, closers, and pens, that&#039;s 6-6-1, which does bring up a good point.  In their current states, these teams are very close.

The difference in the series, I think, was that the heavily right-handed Cubs lineup was actually a perfect matchup for Dodger pitching - Lowe, Billingsley, and Kuroda have OPS against vs. righties of .635, .617, and .608.  Broxton&#039;s, by the way, is a disgusting .442.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod, the Mets would laugh and hang up if the Cubs offered Soriano for Beltran &#8211; Beltran has been better offensively over the last three years, is far better defensively at a tougher position, and is a year younger.</p>
<p>Also, ignoring for a moment the fact that the Dodgers just swept the Cubs, I&#8217;d disagree with you on a couple of the positions &#8211; Soto had  a better year than Martin (going into next year, I&#8217;d make them a push), and I&#8217;d say Lee and Loney are a push (but yes, for the future I&#8217;d rather have Loney).  Game 1 aside, Dempster was very slightly better than Lowe, though I&#8217;d agree with some previous comments and say Billingsley&#8217;s better than Zambrano at this point.  A healthy Harden is definitely better than Kuroda, and Lilly&#8217;s better than Maddux/Kershaw (at this point); that said, Broxton and Wood are a push and the Dodgers pen overall is better.  By my tally, including game 3 and 4 starters, closers, and pens, that&#8217;s 6-6-1, which does bring up a good point.  In their current states, these teams are very close.</p>
<p>The difference in the series, I think, was that the heavily right-handed Cubs lineup was actually a perfect matchup for Dodger pitching &#8211; Lowe, Billingsley, and Kuroda have OPS against vs. righties of .635, .617, and .608.  Broxton&#8217;s, by the way, is a disgusting .442.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Litke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle Litke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 06:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is an interesting question Vin, but I do think you&#039;re right that they&#039;re a much better team than their record indicates, due to the in season changes. Manny Ramirez in particular was a huge change to the team that makes them much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is an interesting question Vin, but I do think you&#8217;re right that they&#8217;re a much better team than their record indicates, due to the in season changes. Manny Ramirez in particular was a huge change to the team that makes them much better.</p>
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		<title>By: Vin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 23:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting question - if the Dodgers do win the World Series, where do they rank among the worst World Champs? One the one hand, they only won 84 games on the season, on the other, as presently constructed, the Dodgers are probably about ten wins better than that. They&#039;re clearly better than the &#039;87 Twins or the &#039;06 Cards, and probably better than the 2000 Yankees. 

Has there ever been a World Series winner that underwent so many in-season changes? I&#039;m not even sure you could compare the Dodgers of October to the Dodgers of, say, June or July.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting question &#8211; if the Dodgers do win the World Series, where do they rank among the worst World Champs? One the one hand, they only won 84 games on the season, on the other, as presently constructed, the Dodgers are probably about ten wins better than that. They&#8217;re clearly better than the &#8216;87 Twins or the &#8216;06 Cards, and probably better than the 2000 Yankees. </p>
<p>Has there ever been a World Series winner that underwent so many in-season changes? I&#8217;m not even sure you could compare the Dodgers of October to the Dodgers of, say, June or July.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil:

Good point about Furcal.  Maybe leave DeRosa and Theriot together and find a hitter for left field since the sink hole is in right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil:</p>
<p>Good point about Furcal.  Maybe leave DeRosa and Theriot together and find a hitter for left field since the sink hole is in right.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Gurnee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Gurnee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I love Furcal before you go and commit to him remember he just finished a 3 year deal with the Dodgers and was healthy for only 6 months out the 18 months he played for us. 
3 in 2006
0 in 2007
3 in 2008</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I love Furcal before you go and commit to him remember he just finished a 3 year deal with the Dodgers and was healthy for only 6 months out the 18 months he played for us.<br />
3 in 2006<br />
0 in 2007<br />
3 in 2008</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dodgers vs. Cubs right now:
C: Russell Martin over Geovany Soto (1-0 Dodgers; no fault of Soto&#039;s just think Martin&#039;s better)
1B: James Loney over Derrick Lee (2-0 Dodgers; Lee&#039;s never been the same player since the wrist injury; glorified Mark Grace these days; that may be where Loney ends up as well but at least there&#039;s some upside left)
2B: Mark DeRosa over Blake DeWitt (2-1 Dodgers; DeRosa has been great since signing with Cubs)
SS: Rafael Furcal over Ryan Theriot (3-1 Dodgers; I understand David Eckstein won 2 World Championships but I can&#039;t stand weak throwing shortstops)
3B: Aramis Ramirez over Casey Blake (3-2 Dodgers; Ramirez is best player on Cubs)
LF: Manny Ramirez over Alfonso Soriano (4-2 Dodgers; no rip on Soriano just think Ramirez is better; similar to catcher breakdown)
CF: Matt Kemp over Jim Edmonds/Reed Johnson (5-2 Dodgers; this is debatable but if Kemp was on the Cubs he would play over the Edmonds/Johnson combo (actually he would play right with the combo remaining in center) or at the very least replace Johnson in a platoon
RF: Andre Ethier over Kosuke Fukudome (6-2 Dodgers; no interest to pile on Fukudome but this isn&#039;t close)
Game 1 SP: Derek Lowe over Ryan Dempster (7-2 Dodgers; Lowe in the 2nd half has been better than Dempster and has some quality post-season experience)
Game 2 SP: Carlos Zambrano over Chad Billingsley (7-3 Dodgers; this is Cub homerism and probably reversed if asked next year)

IS IT ME OR DO THE DODGERS HAVE MORE TALENT?

Cubs should call the Mets and offer Soriano for Beltran and then sign Furcal as a free agent and go into 2009 like this:

C: Soto
1B: Lee
2B: Theriot
SS: Furcal
3B: Ramirez
LF: DeRosa
CF: Beltran
RF: Fukudome (making $12.0 million per year will at least start the year in the lineup)

SP: Zambrano, re-sign Dempster, Harden, Lilly, Samadzija
RP: re-sign Wood, Marmol, couple of free agent signings or trades</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dodgers vs. Cubs right now:<br />
C: Russell Martin over Geovany Soto (1-0 Dodgers; no fault of Soto&#8217;s just think Martin&#8217;s better)<br />
1B: James Loney over Derrick Lee (2-0 Dodgers; Lee&#8217;s never been the same player since the wrist injury; glorified Mark Grace these days; that may be where Loney ends up as well but at least there&#8217;s some upside left)<br />
2B: Mark DeRosa over Blake DeWitt (2-1 Dodgers; DeRosa has been great since signing with Cubs)<br />
SS: Rafael Furcal over Ryan Theriot (3-1 Dodgers; I understand David Eckstein won 2 World Championships but I can&#8217;t stand weak throwing shortstops)<br />
3B: Aramis Ramirez over Casey Blake (3-2 Dodgers; Ramirez is best player on Cubs)<br />
LF: Manny Ramirez over Alfonso Soriano (4-2 Dodgers; no rip on Soriano just think Ramirez is better; similar to catcher breakdown)<br />
CF: Matt Kemp over Jim Edmonds/Reed Johnson (5-2 Dodgers; this is debatable but if Kemp was on the Cubs he would play over the Edmonds/Johnson combo (actually he would play right with the combo remaining in center) or at the very least replace Johnson in a platoon<br />
RF: Andre Ethier over Kosuke Fukudome (6-2 Dodgers; no interest to pile on Fukudome but this isn&#8217;t close)<br />
Game 1 SP: Derek Lowe over Ryan Dempster (7-2 Dodgers; Lowe in the 2nd half has been better than Dempster and has some quality post-season experience)<br />
Game 2 SP: Carlos Zambrano over Chad Billingsley (7-3 Dodgers; this is Cub homerism and probably reversed if asked next year)</p>
<p>IS IT ME OR DO THE DODGERS HAVE MORE TALENT?</p>
<p>Cubs should call the Mets and offer Soriano for Beltran and then sign Furcal as a free agent and go into 2009 like this:</p>
<p>C: Soto<br />
1B: Lee<br />
2B: Theriot<br />
SS: Furcal<br />
3B: Ramirez<br />
LF: DeRosa<br />
CF: Beltran<br />
RF: Fukudome (making $12.0 million per year will at least start the year in the lineup)</p>
<p>SP: Zambrano, re-sign Dempster, Harden, Lilly, Samadzija<br />
RP: re-sign Wood, Marmol, couple of free agent signings or trades</p>
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