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		<title>By: Gate</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/09/29/obscure-stats-take-ii/#comment-34061</link>
		<dc:creator>Gate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, great post as always but had to point out an error: you said you were dropping pitchers, so what&#039;s TJP doing on your final list...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, great post as always but had to point out an error: you said you were dropping pitchers, so what&#8217;s TJP doing on your final list&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew H</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/09/29/obscure-stats-take-ii/#comment-33975</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no idea where to post this comment but does anyone know where to vote in the Internet Baseball Awards?  I thought it was hosted by Baseball Prospectus but I can find no mention of it on their website today?  

thanks for any help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no idea where to post this comment but does anyone know where to vote in the Internet Baseball Awards?  I thought it was hosted by Baseball Prospectus but I can find no mention of it on their website today?  </p>
<p>thanks for any help.</p>
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		<title>By: Creston</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/09/29/obscure-stats-take-ii/#comment-33922</link>
		<dc:creator>Creston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tampa Bay chapter of the BBWAA would vote Tony Pena JR the MVP of the Kansas City Royals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tampa Bay chapter of the BBWAA would vote Tony Pena JR the MVP of the Kansas City Royals.</p>
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		<title>By: Timotai</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/09/29/obscure-stats-take-ii/#comment-33899</link>
		<dc:creator>Timotai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all of the talk of Sabathia and Santana coming through when it matters most, I&#039;m mildly surprised that no one has mentioned the September numbers put up by Ryan Howard:  .352, .422, .852.  He pounded 11 HR, 7 doubles, and 2 three-baggers this month.   Howard had only managed 3 triples in his career prior to 2008, and 2 of those came in September, 2005!  

Clearly, he&#039;s no Albert Pujols when it comes to season long (Joe Morgan approved) consistency, but his candidacy is legitimate and merits mention.  Alas, Howard&#039;s piss poor performance out of the gate precludes him from sitting atop any respectable ballot.  An April BA lower than that of Tony Pena Jr. is an unacceptable stain on a man&#039;s resume.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all of the talk of Sabathia and Santana coming through when it matters most, I&#8217;m mildly surprised that no one has mentioned the September numbers put up by Ryan Howard:  .352, .422, .852.  He pounded 11 HR, 7 doubles, and 2 three-baggers this month.   Howard had only managed 3 triples in his career prior to 2008, and 2 of those came in September, 2005!  </p>
<p>Clearly, he&#8217;s no Albert Pujols when it comes to season long (Joe Morgan approved) consistency, but his candidacy is legitimate and merits mention.  Alas, Howard&#8217;s piss poor performance out of the gate precludes him from sitting atop any respectable ballot.  An April BA lower than that of Tony Pena Jr. is an unacceptable stain on a man&#8217;s resume.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/09/29/obscure-stats-take-ii/#comment-33867</link>
		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I voted Sabathia as MVP of NL ....predicated on the fact that without him the brewers are never even close to the playoffs .....which I perceive as the difference maker......No question pujols is the MOP........but Valuable has a profoundly different level of consideration......Lincecum got my Cy vote.....body of work in the NL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted Sabathia as MVP of NL &#8230;.predicated on the fact that without him the brewers are never even close to the playoffs &#8230;..which I perceive as the difference maker&#8230;&#8230;No question pujols is the MOP&#8230;&#8230;..but Valuable has a profoundly different level of consideration&#8230;&#8230;Lincecum got my Cy vote&#8230;..body of work in the NL.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracey Steele</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/09/29/obscure-stats-take-ii/#comment-33807</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracey Steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible that the &quot;tilt&quot; examples cited above are evidence that OPS+ is fatally flawed, especially at the fringes (where it seems it typically applied)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible that the &#8220;tilt&#8221; examples cited above are evidence that OPS+ is fatally flawed, especially at the fringes (where it seems it typically applied)?</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good bounce back year for Ben Zobrist.  2008 OPS+ is 123.  Better than Wills&#039; career best of +113.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good bounce back year for Ben Zobrist.  2008 OPS+ is 123.  Better than Wills&#8217; career best of +113.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike:

I respectfully disagree with your statements about Shealy.  He had more ABs in 2006 than 2007 and there is really no reason to think that his ABs from about 8/1/2006 on are less reflective of his ability than his ABs in April and May, 2007.  Given the September ABs this year, I think I would certainly think of him as a good possibility at 1B next year.

I do know and I knew before he did what he did this year, that Ross Gload does not have the ability to hit like you need a 1Bman to hit in the major leagues.  Thus, it baffles me why the Royals wouldn&#039;t at least see what Shealy could do earlier in the year.  To paraphrase Dennis Green &quot;Ross Gload is who we thought he was&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike:</p>
<p>I respectfully disagree with your statements about Shealy.  He had more ABs in 2006 than 2007 and there is really no reason to think that his ABs from about 8/1/2006 on are less reflective of his ability than his ABs in April and May, 2007.  Given the September ABs this year, I think I would certainly think of him as a good possibility at 1B next year.</p>
<p>I do know and I knew before he did what he did this year, that Ross Gload does not have the ability to hit like you need a 1Bman to hit in the major leagues.  Thus, it baffles me why the Royals wouldn&#8217;t at least see what Shealy could do earlier in the year.  To paraphrase Dennis Green &#8220;Ross Gload is who we thought he was&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone needs to step back and settle down on Ryan Shealy.  Anyone remember two years ago?  Shealy got called up, hit really well in September and then fell flat on his face the next year.  All of his stats are AAA and September numbers.  Sorry, but those do not translate into regular season.  I hope he can keep it going and do well for the Royals next year, but I am waiting to see it before I get too excited.

I still can&#039;t stop laughing at Tony Pena bobblehead night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone needs to step back and settle down on Ryan Shealy.  Anyone remember two years ago?  Shealy got called up, hit really well in September and then fell flat on his face the next year.  All of his stats are AAA and September numbers.  Sorry, but those do not translate into regular season.  I hope he can keep it going and do well for the Royals next year, but I am waiting to see it before I get too excited.</p>
<p>I still can&#8217;t stop laughing at Tony Pena bobblehead night.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The interesting part about Sabathia&#039;s Sunday afternoon is that it will now completely overshadow Santana&#039;s Saturday afternoon.  Not complaining, as i love to see those loveable Mets &quot;personalities&quot; suffer, but just interesting how 24 hours can change everything.  Otherwise we would be getting tons of Santana arguments........ i just don&#039;t think there should be that much stock in the NL Wild Card winner as far a determinant for MVP.  If your going to use that criterion (winning), shouldn&#039;t you choose a player on a truly dominant team?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interesting part about Sabathia&#8217;s Sunday afternoon is that it will now completely overshadow Santana&#8217;s Saturday afternoon.  Not complaining, as i love to see those loveable Mets &#8220;personalities&#8221; suffer, but just interesting how 24 hours can change everything.  Otherwise we would be getting tons of Santana arguments&#8230;&#8230;.. i just don&#8217;t think there should be that much stock in the NL Wild Card winner as far a determinant for MVP.  If your going to use that criterion (winning), shouldn&#8217;t you choose a player on a truly dominant team?</p>
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