Comments on: Every Rose has his thorns

By: mikestadler.com · The first 3,000 are easy

mikestadler.com · The first 3,000 are easy — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:49:51 +0000

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By: NickP

NickP — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:34:38 +0000

Seasons with OPS+ above 130.

Pete 8

Jeter 2

You’re right. It’s not even close. Pete was a much better hitter. Overall Jeter was more valuable, since he’s a (bad) SS.

The last 5 years really dragged down Pete’s rate stats, but let’s see what Jeter looks like in 3-4 years. It looks like decline has set in for him. He fell off a cliff this season.

By: DJ

DJ — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:32:29 +0000

Rose vs. Jeter per 162 games

Jeter wins hands down: 207 hits, 120 runs, 17 HR, 82 RBI, .316 BA .386 OBP .458 SLG

Rose: 194 hits, 98 runs, 7 HR, 60 RBI, .303 BA .375 OBP .409 SLG

it’s not even close.

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Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:36:20 +0000

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By: Anthony Z

Anthony Z — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:30:25 +0000

The Phillies have been around for over 120 years, they won one championship while Pete Rose played for the team, and zero in the other 115 years of their existence. I’ll buy him a beer anyday.

By: nightfly

nightfly — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:12:40 +0000

Tank – in fairness, Davis certainly was on the big-league roster, and had been since 1984. I’ll grant that the record chase was huge in Cincy. But there had to be a better way to get it while also serving the best interests of the ball club. I mean, you’ve got all these promising young players: Davis, O’Neill, even Kal Daniels before he fell down a well… Jose Rijo was on his way, Danny Jackson is having his best years, John Franco is in the bullpen… and very shortly, Barry Larkin and Chris Sabo are showing up.

(Man, that was a heckuva outfit, wasn’t it? I’d forgotten. Nobody talks about the late 80’s Reds much, except to wonder how Rose’s gambling on the team affected them. Such a shame.)

By: Tank Garbonzo

Tank Garbonzo — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:59:50 +0000

Even if you are correct, Nightfly, the good people of the ‘Nati wanted that record badly. It meant a lot to them that a home town boy would become the hit king. Think of it like it was the all-star game…it was for the people.

Also, Pete wasn’t the GM and Davis and O’Neil weren’t available to him.

By: Mike

Mike — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:46:58 +0000

Pete’s the king of hits, he has the right to scoff every/any notion that his crown will ever be approached. It’s his to rule as he pleases.

By: Johnny

Johnny — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:16:45 +0000

If Ichiro gets 3,000 U.S. hits, he’ll pass Rose with the combined total. Pretty good chance he will (I don’t know what Mr. James puts him at) despite Ichiro’s age.

By: Dusty

Dusty — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:56:38 +0000

pete rose is awesome