Comments on: The Gloaden Rule http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/31/the-gloaden-rule/ Curiously Long Posts Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:53:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: muscle wire http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/31/the-gloaden-rule/#comment-34547 muscle wire Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:31:19 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/31/the-gloaden-rule/#comment-34547 <strong>muscle wire...</strong> So in a nut shell, whey protein provides aminos almost immediately, and once the whey is all "used" up, the casein kicks in... muscle wire…

So in a nut shell, whey protein provides aminos almost immediately, and once the whey is all "used" up, the casein kicks in…

]]> By: bongo http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/31/the-gloaden-rule/#comment-25895 bongo Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:55:55 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/31/the-gloaden-rule/#comment-25895 The Mariners would love to have Jose Guillen back. Make it happen. The Mariners would love to have Jose Guillen back. Make it happen.

]]> By: BeesGal http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/31/the-gloaden-rule/#comment-25872 BeesGal Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:28:23 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/31/the-gloaden-rule/#comment-25872 Forget Stratomatic lineups and player cards. What you need is the Roger Maris endorsed <a href="http://www.yourememberthat.com/media/499/Roger_Maris_Action_Baseball_Game/" rel="nofollow"><strong>ACTION BASEBALL</strong></a> ;-) Forget Stratomatic lineups and player cards. What you need is the Roger Maris endorsed ACTION BASEBALL ;-)

]]> By: JeffSol http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/31/the-gloaden-rule/#comment-25792 JeffSol Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:52:26 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/31/the-gloaden-rule/#comment-25792 The discussion of players with negative OPS+ made me think of Mario Mendoza, of the famed Mendoza line. I was shocked to find that his worst OPS+, other than 18 PA in his final season, was 20, and his worst for a season of 200+ PA was 1979 in seattle, his one year as a regular, at 25 (and btw AVG. of .198, below his famed line). Man, Pena's pretty bad, to be 30 points of OPS+ worse thanm Mario Mendoza in his worst season.... The discussion of players with negative OPS+ made me think of Mario Mendoza, of the famed Mendoza line. I was shocked to find that his worst OPS+, other than 18 PA in his final season, was 20, and his worst for a season of 200+ PA was 1979 in seattle, his one year as a regular, at 25 (and btw AVG. of .198, below his famed line). Man, Pena’s pretty bad, to be 30 points of OPS+ worse thanm Mario Mendoza in his worst season….

]]> By: Planet B http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/31/the-gloaden-rule/#comment-25786 Planet B Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:28:40 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/31/the-gloaden-rule/#comment-25786 I noticed the same thing the other day when I looked up Emil's numbers to see how he had been doing... realizing not much worse than Jose. Jose better put up or shut up at this point. Also, you're dead right about Gload. He is NOT an everyday player. Get Shealy up now! Find out if he should be on the team next year instead of giving more meaningless at bats to Gload, who will only hit a weak ground to the right side anyway. I noticed the same thing the other day when I looked up Emil’s numbers to see how he had been doing… realizing not much worse than Jose. Jose better put up or shut up at this point.

Also, you’re dead right about Gload. He is NOT an everyday player. Get Shealy up now! Find out if he should be on the team next year instead of giving more meaningless at bats to Gload, who will only hit a weak ground to the right side anyway.

]]> By: Creston http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/31/the-gloaden-rule/#comment-25772 Creston Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:58:20 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/31/the-gloaden-rule/#comment-25772 "Matsui had a 131 OPS+ when he got hurt. " You're right, I had actually forgotten about him being hurt all season. Once I remembered I had already posted it. The other two will suffice. :) “Matsui had a 131 OPS+ when he got hurt. ”

You’re right, I had actually forgotten about him being hurt all season. Once I remembered I had already posted it.

The other two will suffice. :)

]]> By: Art Radley http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/31/the-gloaden-rule/#comment-25764 Art Radley Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:10:24 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/31/the-gloaden-rule/#comment-25764 > Alternate : Hideki Matsui. 13 million dollars. WARP of 2.2 Matsui had a 131 OPS+ when he got hurt. This list should be for guys who have been available to play, but have just stunk (basically everyone else on that list). > Alternate : Hideki Matsui. 13 million dollars. WARP of 2.2

Matsui had a 131 OPS+ when he got hurt. This list should be for guys who have been available to play, but have just stunk (basically everyone else on that list).

]]> By: Creston http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/31/the-gloaden-rule/#comment-25760 Creston Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:52:50 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/31/the-gloaden-rule/#comment-25760 "If we can’t pronounce it “ops”, you can’t pronounce this “vorp”, you have to say V-O-R-P!! " You would be the kind of guy that pronounces the BBWAA as the buhbuhwaaaaah, right? :P “If we can’t pronounce it “ops”, you can’t pronounce this “vorp”, you have to say V-O-R-P!! ”

You would be the kind of guy that pronounces the BBWAA as the buhbuhwaaaaah, right? :P

]]> By: Creston http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/31/the-gloaden-rule/#comment-25759 Creston Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:51:09 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/31/the-gloaden-rule/#comment-25759 "I recently moved to the Philly area, and watching the game tonight, I find out they are about to put Juan Samuel on their Wall of Fame" Juan Samuel, really? The guy who played for Philly for 7 years, was slightly above mediocre with the bat and a butcher in the field? They're going to put him on the wall? Jesus, was Mickey Morandini not available anymore? “I recently moved to the Philly area, and watching the game tonight, I find out they are about to put Juan Samuel on their Wall of Fame”

Juan Samuel, really? The guy who played for Philly for 7 years, was slightly above mediocre with the bat and a butcher in the field? They’re going to put him on the wall? Jesus, was Mickey Morandini not available anymore?

]]> By: Creston http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/31/the-gloaden-rule/#comment-25758 Creston Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:45:40 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/31/the-gloaden-rule/#comment-25758 I like your Gloaden Rule, Joe, but I'm going to take offense at some of the guys you've put up. Gload : Fine. Negative WARP. Sanchez : Fine. Negative WARP. Kendall : Ehm no. He has a 3.5 WARP. Which, I might add, is more than TWICE what Varitek is producing this year. Brown : Has a 1.2 WARP. It's not great. But not offensively bad. And he's pretty cheap. Matthews : Has a .5 WARP. That's horrible. The guy is making 10 million dollars. Allow me to put up guys that are making a ton of money, and have truly horrible WARPs. Just off the top of my head (there might be worse offenders out there) C : Jason Varitek. 11 million dollars. WARP of 1.6 1B : Richie Sexson. 15 million dollars. WARP of 1.1 2B : Jeff Kent. ~10 million dollars. WARP of .9 (!) SS : Derek Jeter. 21 million (!!!!) dollars. WARP of 1.6 3B : Adrian Beltre. 12.9 million dollars. WARP of 1.8 LF : Juan Pierre. 9 million dollars. WARP of 1.2. Alternate : Hideki Matsui. 13 million dollars. WARP of 2.2 Alternate : Gary Matthews. WARP of .5. 10 million bucks. CF : The incomparable Andruw Jones. 18 million. WARP of .1(!!) RF : Gary Sheffield. 11 million bucks. WARP of .6. (That's cheating a little, I know he doesn't play RF, but I wanted DH for ...) DH : Jose Vidro. He's the only designated HITTER who actually sucks worse at hitting than a AAA scrub would. A magnificent -.7 WARP. For the measly sum of 7.5 million smackers! Rejoice Dodgers and Mariners fans. Your team each has (had) three of these guys on your list! Let's have three cheers for Ned Coletti and the late Bill Bavasi! Hip hip! Hurray! Hip hip! Hurray! Hip hip! Hurray! I like your Gloaden Rule, Joe, but I’m going to take offense at some of the guys you’ve put up.

Gload : Fine. Negative WARP.
Sanchez : Fine. Negative WARP.
Kendall : Ehm no. He has a 3.5 WARP. Which, I might add, is more than TWICE what Varitek is producing this year.
Brown : Has a 1.2 WARP. It’s not great. But not offensively bad. And he’s pretty cheap.
Matthews : Has a .5 WARP. That’s horrible. The guy is making 10 million dollars.

Allow me to put up guys that are making a ton of money, and have truly horrible WARPs. Just off the top of my head (there might be worse offenders out there)

C : Jason Varitek. 11 million dollars. WARP of 1.6
1B : Richie Sexson. 15 million dollars. WARP of 1.1
2B : Jeff Kent. ~10 million dollars. WARP of .9 (!)
SS : Derek Jeter. 21 million (!!!!) dollars. WARP of 1.6
3B : Adrian Beltre. 12.9 million dollars. WARP of 1.8
LF : Juan Pierre. 9 million dollars. WARP of 1.2.
Alternate : Hideki Matsui. 13 million dollars. WARP of 2.2
Alternate : Gary Matthews. WARP of .5. 10 million bucks.
CF : The incomparable Andruw Jones. 18 million. WARP of .1(!!)
RF : Gary Sheffield. 11 million bucks. WARP of .6.
(That’s cheating a little, I know he doesn’t play RF, but I wanted DH for …)
DH : Jose Vidro. He’s the only designated HITTER who actually sucks worse at hitting than a AAA scrub would.
A magnificent -.7 WARP. For the measly sum of 7.5 million smackers!

Rejoice Dodgers and Mariners fans. Your team each has (had) three of these guys on your list! Let’s have three cheers for Ned Coletti and the late Bill Bavasi!

Hip hip! Hurray!
Hip hip! Hurray!
Hip hip! Hurray!

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