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		<title>By: &#187; Just say it! Exchange your wife girlfriend</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/23/just-say-it/#comment-35361</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Just say it! Exchange your wife girlfriend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 01:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Does anyone ever feel like eating something? I wonder about this because it seems universal whenever you ask someone, So, what do you feel like eating? they will inevitably say that they dont have an opinion. They are open to anything. Its up to you. Really. Whatever. Its all good. I can eat anything. Im not picky. Would I look like this is I was picky? Ha ha. No seriously, whatever you want is good with me. About the only thing you might get when asking someone what they feel like    source: Just say it! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Does anyone ever feel like eating something? I wonder about this because it seems universal whenever you ask someone, So, what do you feel like eating? they will inevitably say that they dont have an opinion. They are open to anything. Its up to you. Really. Whatever. Its all good. I can eat anything. Im not picky. Would I look like this is I was picky? Ha ha. No seriously, whatever you want is good with me. About the only thing you might get when asking someone what they feel like    source: Just say it! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Aronson</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/23/just-say-it/#comment-25202</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Aronson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dodgers right now could use TPJ in this way if he were to become a good setup man.  He&#039;s be a contrasting reliever to most of the starters, but probably not Lowe.  They are using Nomar at SS, then pulling him for Berroa with a late lead, and with Saito on the DL, Broxton is closing and they could probably use a setup man or even a 7th inning guy.  On the other hand, Beimel, Park, and Kuo all have ERA under 2.5, so they seem to have the setup man thing handled for the time being.

As for the Royals, the real question is: how good is the Royals replacement player for TPJ?  The Dodgers have Berroa, who is pretty bad with the bat, so I assume that whoever is now at AAA is even worse, but even so it appears that Berroa is a better fielder from the stats at BR.  I think every manager in baseball would rather have his best SS at SS and not on the mound.  If the Royals have an athletic 3B at AAA, then it makes more sense; bring him up, let him hit at SS, then do some kind of switch to eventually have TPJ at Pitcher during a late inning at bat and then move to SS.

As for TPJ, IIRC his dad had a gun behind the plate, so he comes by his arm genetically.  And there are two things going on here.  First, nobody is going to claim TPJ off wavers to try him as a pitcher who is already three years into his career (and arbitration and free agency).  So send him down if it makes sense.  But I just don&#039;t see the Royals having a better option.  I mean, I recall when Robin Yount went from being a high school classmate of mine to starting for the Brewers, because the Brewers didn&#039;t have anybody better in their entire system to use.  But even then he OPSed 79, not -1 like Pena, and it wasn&#039;t until his fifth year that his OPS+ went above 100.  If the Royals really have nobody better, or maybe have a prospect in the low minors they don&#039;t want to ruin because, lets face it, the Royals are not competing for a pennant this year or next, then moving Pena won&#039;t help.

So I&#039;m thinking that you talk to Pena about winter ball and the Rookie Instructional League as a pitcher.  He&#039;s 27 years old, and if this is all he brings (both as a SS and as a hitter) then he&#039;ll be a utility player if he&#039;s lucky and more likely out of baseball before he&#039;s 32.  Hell, I don&#039;t understand why Berroa isn&#039;t the good field no hit shortstop out there, or why Berroa was sent down.  The range factors look much better for Berroa, Berroa looks like a better pinch runner and base stealer, he at least has had some offense some years in his career, and I can only assume that Berroa slept with somebody&#039;s wife to be replaced by Pena.  Based on what the stats show, I&#039;d rather have Berroa at age 30 than Pena at age 27.  If Pena was only 23, then it&#039;s a different matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dodgers right now could use TPJ in this way if he were to become a good setup man.  He&#8217;s be a contrasting reliever to most of the starters, but probably not Lowe.  They are using Nomar at SS, then pulling him for Berroa with a late lead, and with Saito on the DL, Broxton is closing and they could probably use a setup man or even a 7th inning guy.  On the other hand, Beimel, Park, and Kuo all have ERA under 2.5, so they seem to have the setup man thing handled for the time being.</p>
<p>As for the Royals, the real question is: how good is the Royals replacement player for TPJ?  The Dodgers have Berroa, who is pretty bad with the bat, so I assume that whoever is now at AAA is even worse, but even so it appears that Berroa is a better fielder from the stats at BR.  I think every manager in baseball would rather have his best SS at SS and not on the mound.  If the Royals have an athletic 3B at AAA, then it makes more sense; bring him up, let him hit at SS, then do some kind of switch to eventually have TPJ at Pitcher during a late inning at bat and then move to SS.</p>
<p>As for TPJ, IIRC his dad had a gun behind the plate, so he comes by his arm genetically.  And there are two things going on here.  First, nobody is going to claim TPJ off wavers to try him as a pitcher who is already three years into his career (and arbitration and free agency).  So send him down if it makes sense.  But I just don&#8217;t see the Royals having a better option.  I mean, I recall when Robin Yount went from being a high school classmate of mine to starting for the Brewers, because the Brewers didn&#8217;t have anybody better in their entire system to use.  But even then he OPSed 79, not -1 like Pena, and it wasn&#8217;t until his fifth year that his OPS+ went above 100.  If the Royals really have nobody better, or maybe have a prospect in the low minors they don&#8217;t want to ruin because, lets face it, the Royals are not competing for a pennant this year or next, then moving Pena won&#8217;t help.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m thinking that you talk to Pena about winter ball and the Rookie Instructional League as a pitcher.  He&#8217;s 27 years old, and if this is all he brings (both as a SS and as a hitter) then he&#8217;ll be a utility player if he&#8217;s lucky and more likely out of baseball before he&#8217;s 32.  Hell, I don&#8217;t understand why Berroa isn&#8217;t the good field no hit shortstop out there, or why Berroa was sent down.  The range factors look much better for Berroa, Berroa looks like a better pinch runner and base stealer, he at least has had some offense some years in his career, and I can only assume that Berroa slept with somebody&#8217;s wife to be replaced by Pena.  Based on what the stats show, I&#8217;d rather have Berroa at age 30 than Pena at age 27.  If Pena was only 23, then it&#8217;s a different matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/23/just-say-it/#comment-25038</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Joe Blanton, I think some people read &lt;i&gt;Moneyball&lt;/i&gt; too literally and assumed that Billy Beane was always correct.  How could trading for Blanton be a bad idea unless Beane had incorrectly valued Blanton&#039;s style of pitching over a strikeout guy like Bonderman, after all?

I&#039;m 100% in favor of making Tony Pena Jr. a two-way utility player, as you&#039;ve suggested, Joe.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://uhcougars.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/spec-rel/020108aaa.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Woody Williams played both ways in college&lt;/a&gt;, FWIW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Joe Blanton, I think some people read <i>Moneyball</i> too literally and assumed that Billy Beane was always correct.  How could trading for Blanton be a bad idea unless Beane had incorrectly valued Blanton&#8217;s style of pitching over a strikeout guy like Bonderman, after all?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m 100% in favor of making Tony Pena Jr. a two-way utility player, as you&#8217;ve suggested, Joe.  <a href="http://uhcougars.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/spec-rel/020108aaa.html" rel="nofollow">Woody Williams played both ways in college</a>, FWIW.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No discussion that brings up guys who were great at both hitting and pitching can be complete without mentioning the great and sadly nearly forgotten Martin Dihigo.  In the 1938 Mexican League he went 18-2 with a 0.90 ERA as a pitcher and had a league leading .387 average. 
Sure, it might have been the Mexican League, but to do that at any level of professional baseball at any time is really cool.  His overall numbers in the Mexican, Cuban, and Negro Leagues suggest that he was pretty damned talented.  And he does have the distinction of being in the hall of fame in all three countries he played in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No discussion that brings up guys who were great at both hitting and pitching can be complete without mentioning the great and sadly nearly forgotten Martin Dihigo.  In the 1938 Mexican League he went 18-2 with a 0.90 ERA as a pitcher and had a league leading .387 average.<br />
Sure, it might have been the Mexican League, but to do that at any level of professional baseball at any time is really cool.  His overall numbers in the Mexican, Cuban, and Negro Leagues suggest that he was pretty damned talented.  And he does have the distinction of being in the hall of fame in all three countries he played in.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey...he already has one tool all great pitchers share.....HE CAN&#039;T HIT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey&#8230;he already has one tool all great pitchers share&#8230;..HE CAN&#8217;T HIT!</p>
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		<title>By: Xtreme 97</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/23/just-say-it/#comment-24893</link>
		<dc:creator>Xtreme 97</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points, throw him in there.
He can&#039;t hit worth anything, why not have his low 90&#039;s heat kick it up a notch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points, throw him in there.<br />
He can&#8217;t hit worth anything, why not have his low 90&#8217;s heat kick it up a notch.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Buffum</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/23/just-say-it/#comment-24891</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Buffum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would Tony Pena Jr. really get claimed on waivers?  Really?  Am I missing something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would Tony Pena Jr. really get claimed on waivers?  Really?  Am I missing something?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Bagnall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Bagnall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be a considerable difference between the career numbers and this season&#039;s numbers for Pena&#039;s hitting.  What is the reason for that?  Neither set of numbers is indicative of GOOD hitting, perhaps, but this season&#039;s numbers are worse.  Cannot bad hitters have slumps?  Maybe he would snap out of it, given another 300 AB.  The current Royals SS is the reverse image of Pena.  He&#039;s a guy whose minor league record indicates he can hit some, but whose ability to play the position at the ML level is suspect.  So far, he hits a lot better than Pena and his defense has been surprisingly good.  Pena&#039;s initial defense was excellent and his hitting was surprisingly good.  That&#039;s why patience is considered the prime attribute of managers.

My recommendation regarding Pena, since you ask, is to forget this season&#039;s record, which isn&#039;t going to be very good anyway, and pitch him in tough spots, starting tonight.  If he has two or three good outings, maybe the Royals can trade him to a contender before the deadline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be a considerable difference between the career numbers and this season&#8217;s numbers for Pena&#8217;s hitting.  What is the reason for that?  Neither set of numbers is indicative of GOOD hitting, perhaps, but this season&#8217;s numbers are worse.  Cannot bad hitters have slumps?  Maybe he would snap out of it, given another 300 AB.  The current Royals SS is the reverse image of Pena.  He&#8217;s a guy whose minor league record indicates he can hit some, but whose ability to play the position at the ML level is suspect.  So far, he hits a lot better than Pena and his defense has been surprisingly good.  Pena&#8217;s initial defense was excellent and his hitting was surprisingly good.  That&#8217;s why patience is considered the prime attribute of managers.</p>
<p>My recommendation regarding Pena, since you ask, is to forget this season&#8217;s record, which isn&#8217;t going to be very good anyway, and pitch him in tough spots, starting tonight.  If he has two or three good outings, maybe the Royals can trade him to a contender before the deadline.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just voted on the greatest pitcher list and ppl Maddux is a great pitcher in his own standard but he aint no Koufax or Martinez sorry to say.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just voted on the greatest pitcher list and ppl Maddux is a great pitcher in his own standard but he aint no Koufax or Martinez sorry to say&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buchholz Surfer you forgot Jorge Sosa he can rack 2 LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buchholz Surfer you forgot Jorge Sosa he can rack 2 LOL</p>
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