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		<title>By: Douglas Triggs</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/04/the-grady-chronicles/#comment-22711</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Triggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, DC is the worst...  For exactly the same reasons you say about Florida.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, DC is the worst&#8230;  For exactly the same reasons you say about Florida.</p>
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		<title>By: Ranter and Raver</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/04/the-grady-chronicles/#comment-22590</link>
		<dc:creator>Ranter and Raver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the main reasons the midwest has so much road construction is because they use salt during snow storms to clear the road. While it clears the road well it damages the road almost each and every year. This past year with all the snow has caused a ton of construction. God, I hate the midwest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the main reasons the midwest has so much road construction is because they use salt during snow storms to clear the road. While it clears the road well it damages the road almost each and every year. This past year with all the snow has caused a ton of construction. God, I hate the midwest.</p>
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		<title>By: Buchholz Surfer</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/04/the-grady-chronicles/#comment-22585</link>
		<dc:creator>Buchholz Surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Walter&#039;s post above that &quot;in his prime&quot; is the key to to the poll results. People remember Martinez best from the 2003 to 2004 postseasons, but he was much better from 1997-2001 (he got hurt in 2001 and that was pretty much the end of his prime.) 

He was almost like Kareem Abdul Jabbar: most people remember Kareem from his shaved-dome days of trotting slowly down the court behind the other Showtime Lakers, but the prime-of-his-career Kareem (probably his first 4 seasons, when he was a 30+ppg, 16+ rpg 4+ apg dominator) was just an ungodly great player, so different from the lesser guy who was still good that more people saw and remember.

1999-2000 Pedro Martinez was definitely the best pitcher I&#039;ve ever seen, and I go back to the late 1960&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Walter&#8217;s post above that &#8220;in his prime&#8221; is the key to to the poll results. People remember Martinez best from the 2003 to 2004 postseasons, but he was much better from 1997-2001 (he got hurt in 2001 and that was pretty much the end of his prime.) </p>
<p>He was almost like Kareem Abdul Jabbar: most people remember Kareem from his shaved-dome days of trotting slowly down the court behind the other Showtime Lakers, but the prime-of-his-career Kareem (probably his first 4 seasons, when he was a 30+ppg, 16+ rpg 4+ apg dominator) was just an ungodly great player, so different from the lesser guy who was still good that more people saw and remember.</p>
<p>1999-2000 Pedro Martinez was definitely the best pitcher I&#8217;ve ever seen, and I go back to the late 1960&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/07/04/the-grady-chronicles/#comment-22578</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the thing. When they retire from everyplace else, they come down here to Florida to die. And they figure driving is as good a way as any.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the thing. When they retire from everyplace else, they come down here to Florida to die. And they figure driving is as good a way as any.</p>
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		<title>By: Creston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Creston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, for all your complaining about how hard it is to drive in XXX, USA, all of you would go into shock once you tried to drive in Amsterdam. It takes a special &quot;I don&#039;t care who gets killed&quot; kind of attitude to survive driving in Amsterdam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, for all your complaining about how hard it is to drive in XXX, USA, all of you would go into shock once you tried to drive in Amsterdam. It takes a special &#8220;I don&#8217;t care who gets killed&#8221; kind of attitude to survive driving in Amsterdam.</p>
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		<title>By: Creston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Creston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;an old 2001 list of most dangerous interesections has them in these states:
1. FL
2. PA
3. PA
4. AZ
5. OK
6. OK&quot;

5 and 6 were both here in Tulsa, and have been fixed, so they&#039;d no longer be on that list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;an old 2001 list of most dangerous interesections has them in these states:<br />
1. FL<br />
2. PA<br />
3. PA<br />
4. AZ<br />
5. OK<br />
6. OK&#8221;</p>
<p>5 and 6 were both here in Tulsa, and have been fixed, so they&#8217;d no longer be on that list.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Boston, there are 2 things you don&#039;t want to be:
1) a Yankees fan, and 
2) the person driving the car in front of someone else.

All in all, though, it&#039;s really not THAT hard to drive here.  5 or 10 years ago, when the roads changed from day to day, maybe it was.

But the Big Dig is finished now!  And only $300 billion dollars over budget!</description>
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1) a Yankees fan, and<br />
2) the person driving the car in front of someone else.</p>
<p>All in all, though, it&#8217;s really not THAT hard to drive here.  5 or 10 years ago, when the roads changed from day to day, maybe it was.</p>
<p>But the Big Dig is finished now!  And only $300 billion dollars over budget!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, a massive personal attack!  I don&#039;t want to start a ridiculous little flame-war here, so I will try to restrict my comments to correcting Gogiggs&#039; misstatements.

1. I don&#039;t have a massive retort to every criticism of Wedge â€” many of which are my own crticisms.

2. Of course I&#039;m disappointed to see Joe write something that any uneducated casual fan might write.  He&#039;s one of my favorite writers, and in particular writes an incredible stream of sharp and insightful things about baseball.

3. I never wrote anything insulting to the readers of LGT â€” who are, without a doubt, among the very smartest, funniest and observant readers of any sports blog, anywhere, including this one.  The percentage of LGT posters who could be called &quot;unsophisticated&quot; in any sense is astonishingly low, particularly considering it&#039;s a sports site.  (The &quot;unwashed&quot; percentage possibly is a little higher, but that was a bit of literary license.)  What I actually wrote was that what Joe wrote was comparable to something that THE MOST IGNORANT person at LGT might have written, not what a typical LGT regular would write at all.

This is important to me â€” nobody is a bigger fan of the reader/contributors at LGT than I am, and I consider it a serious slander to say otherwise.

Of course, that whole comparison was hyperbole anyway.  Joe has never shown ignorance in anything I&#039;ve read and is a very good writer on his very worst day.  The &quot;shock&quot; is that there could be any resemblance at all in a point Joe would make.

4. I wrote:  â€œOne [would] hope the lineup is a little bit more about, for example, getting the best hitters the most trips to the plate than it is about the fansâ€™ feelings.â€  (I left out a word.)  Gogiggs viciously responds that &quot;getting the best hitters to the plate the most often would be a goal only to the degree that it served the primary goal of scoring the most runs.&quot;  I say &quot;viciously responds&quot; only because that&#039;s the style.  In terms of content, he&#039;s not contradicting my point, he&#039;s amplifying it.  I agree with him, so I&#039;m only correcting the idea that I woudn&#039;t agree with that.

Lots of fans gripe about where Grady is batting.  They&#039;ve been doing it for years.  More knowledgable fans tend to understand that the point is unimportant at best and very possibly dead wrong.  It is a tiresome subject for someone who writes about the Indians every day to a sophisticated audience.  Sometimes I lapse into a condescending tone, intending it as mock-condescending, the kind of thing that might work out fine in person, but the &quot;mock&quot; part gets lost in the plain text.  Something I should work on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, a massive personal attack!  I don&#8217;t want to start a ridiculous little flame-war here, so I will try to restrict my comments to correcting Gogiggs&#8217; misstatements.</p>
<p>1. I don&#8217;t have a massive retort to every criticism of Wedge â€” many of which are my own crticisms.</p>
<p>2. Of course I&#8217;m disappointed to see Joe write something that any uneducated casual fan might write.  He&#8217;s one of my favorite writers, and in particular writes an incredible stream of sharp and insightful things about baseball.</p>
<p>3. I never wrote anything insulting to the readers of LGT â€” who are, without a doubt, among the very smartest, funniest and observant readers of any sports blog, anywhere, including this one.  The percentage of LGT posters who could be called &#8220;unsophisticated&#8221; in any sense is astonishingly low, particularly considering it&#8217;s a sports site.  (The &#8220;unwashed&#8221; percentage possibly is a little higher, but that was a bit of literary license.)  What I actually wrote was that what Joe wrote was comparable to something that THE MOST IGNORANT person at LGT might have written, not what a typical LGT regular would write at all.</p>
<p>This is important to me â€” nobody is a bigger fan of the reader/contributors at LGT than I am, and I consider it a serious slander to say otherwise.</p>
<p>Of course, that whole comparison was hyperbole anyway.  Joe has never shown ignorance in anything I&#8217;ve read and is a very good writer on his very worst day.  The &#8220;shock&#8221; is that there could be any resemblance at all in a point Joe would make.</p>
<p>4. I wrote:  â€œOne [would] hope the lineup is a little bit more about, for example, getting the best hitters the most trips to the plate than it is about the fansâ€™ feelings.â€  (I left out a word.)  Gogiggs viciously responds that &#8220;getting the best hitters to the plate the most often would be a goal only to the degree that it served the primary goal of scoring the most runs.&#8221;  I say &#8220;viciously responds&#8221; only because that&#8217;s the style.  In terms of content, he&#8217;s not contradicting my point, he&#8217;s amplifying it.  I agree with him, so I&#8217;m only correcting the idea that I woudn&#8217;t agree with that.</p>
<p>Lots of fans gripe about where Grady is batting.  They&#8217;ve been doing it for years.  More knowledgable fans tend to understand that the point is unimportant at best and very possibly dead wrong.  It is a tiresome subject for someone who writes about the Indians every day to a sophisticated audience.  Sometimes I lapse into a condescending tone, intending it as mock-condescending, the kind of thing that might work out fine in person, but the &#8220;mock&#8221; part gets lost in the plain text.  Something I should work on.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote from Steve
&quot;plus Lofton couldnâ€™t get on base when he was leading off.&quot;

Uh Steve, he had a .387 OBP when Grady batted 3rd. How is that not getting on base?

And your small 4 game sample size included a game when Greinke held the Indians to one hit and then a lefty was brought in. It also included a game where Jurrjens held the Indians to one hit into the 7th.

You also conviently left out his 3 walks in those games.

â€œHow many of his home runs have actually come leading off an inning?â€
The better question is, how many HR were solos (16 of 22)? Since the Indians have poor hitters abtting 8-9, they are rarely on base for Grady.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote from Steve<br />
&#8220;plus Lofton couldnâ€™t get on base when he was leading off.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh Steve, he had a .387 OBP when Grady batted 3rd. How is that not getting on base?</p>
<p>And your small 4 game sample size included a game when Greinke held the Indians to one hit and then a lefty was brought in. It also included a game where Jurrjens held the Indians to one hit into the 7th.</p>
<p>You also conviently left out his 3 walks in those games.</p>
<p>â€œHow many of his home runs have actually come leading off an inning?â€<br />
The better question is, how many HR were solos (16 of 22)? Since the Indians have poor hitters abtting 8-9, they are rarely on base for Grady.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 03:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How many of his home runs have actually come leading off an inning?&quot;

9 of 22.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How many of his home runs have actually come leading off an inning?&#8221;</p>
<p>9 of 22.</p>
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