Comments on: Old Man Joy

By: Derek

Derek — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:15:33 +0000

the real question is who is the better sidekick/ number 2 player…pippen or kobe…pippen couldn’t do it without mj and kobe hasn’t done it(yet) without shaq..thats a more reasonable question..but please lay to rest the MJ KB crap!!

By: Derek

Derek — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:59:17 +0000

MJ compared to KB is laughable at best right now..some say he needs to match the stats, get a few more mvps and 3 more rings…this is still laughable…….if Kobe can get 4 or 5 finals mvps not even matching his Airness..then…maybe then…will all this comparison bs even matter…but until then its “I wanna be like Mike”

By: BigSliceDave

BigSliceDave — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:09:26 +0000

Kobe being compared to Jordan? Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee
Kobe doesn’t even win anything with so call “his team” or hasn’t led any team to any title. Until he proves himself that he can win it all, he’s just like any other great players who’s never won anything due to Jordan’s dominance – yeah Barley, malone, Ewing, Drexler- I am talking about you. Although Kobe has three rings but if I was playing with Shaq in his prime I would have got my rings too. All I need to do is throw the ball to Shaq and wait for him to kick it out for wide open shots. Kobe has a few years left and until he can win it all with him leading the team, he’s no MJ, period. And I am just talking about winning alone. Kobe will never match Jordan’s all around basketball IQ and savvy. You see see fear in opponents face when they play against Jordan. Bottom line, Kobe is no MJ. He can’t win like MJ. He can’t dominate like MJ. he can’t talk like MJ. He can’t play mind games like MJ. He can’t use opponents for motivation like MJ. He can’t lead like MJ. He can’t make his teammates better like MJ. So many “He can’t” that would list …So stop the nonsense comparision

By: Conor

Conor — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:23:59 +0000

“My point was that I doubt a three-peat will come in the next 10-15 years.”

A big reason for this is because there is no player as good as MJ.

You want to tell me the Jordan Bulls couldn’t three peat in this era?

Jordan beat 4 60 win teams in the finals. The Jazz teams he beat are some of the best teams to lose in the finals. In 96, Seattle won 64 games. In 97, Utah won 64 games. In 98, Utah won 62 games.

I think the funny thing is that, and there are people out there who make this claim, there is no real argument for Kobe over MJ. It’s just stated. Same thing with Kobe as the best player in the planet. It is just stated as a fact, with nothing really to back it up. Why is Kobe as good as MJ? Why is he the best player on the planet? What makes him a better player than Lebron? (Lebron, by the way, is the one guy who has the potential to one day be legitimately mentioned with Jordan. I don’t think he will, of course, but it could happen. Kobe? Never.)

By: Conor

Conor — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:18:20 +0000

“Michael was class. He competed and respected everyone, even after he proved they were below his talent level.”

Jordan was the best ever, but class? He was probably harder on his teammates than any athlete ever.

Ask Kwame Brown if Jordan respected everyone.

By: Alan

Alan — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:52:59 +0000

I remember Leroy Kelly very well. My dad loved Leroy Kelly. I do not remember Jim Brown.

At his best, Earl Campbell was the best running back I ever saw.

By: JBish

JBish — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:28:57 +0000

@scruff,

I’m with you. I think Kobe is absurdly overrated. I loved Pip back in the day though, and I don’t know if his career has ever been fully appreciated by the experts or the masses.

By: G Young

G Young — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:04:51 +0000

The only reason this is even a discussion is because Kobe physically resembles Jordan, and because his game has some similarities.

As a basketball player, as a member of a basketball team, it is no comparison.

The closer comparison is LeBron, as a player and as a member of a team.

Too often, particularly when describing Kobe as the Best Player on the Planet, people forget basketball is a team game closer to football or soccer than to baseball. Kobe would be a great baseball player, much like A Rod is a great baseball player.

By: arthurB

arthurB — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:41:31 +0000

why is no one mentioning Barry Sanders in the greatest running back of all time debate? i’m not old(21) but i love going back and watching clips of the greats(Jim Brown, Gale Sayers, Walter Payton etc…) and while barry was the only one of those i got to see growing up he retired in his prime and had he stayed in the league just one or two more years he would’ve shattered most running records. As for kobe >= Jordan that will never be the case. Kobe is a great player but personally I don’t even think he’s better than Lebron, given the fact he had one of the most dominant centers of all time and ran him out of town then struggled for three seasons until he got another dominant low post player. Who that has played with Lebron could ever be called dominant?? or even really good haha Big Z is good but not really good yet Lebron took them to the finals last year and lost to the eventual champs this year. Jordan was the best to ever play the game period. He made me want to start playing.

By: Andy Sonnanstine's Scruffy Beard

Andy Sonnanstine's Scruffy Beard — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:23:21 +0000

JBish-

You’re right; Scottie Pippen was an amazingly consistent offensive force and an absolute defensive bulldog. My comments weren’t meant to slight him in any way, but reading them over again, I can see how they might have come across that way. My bad.

I was just trying to say that there was never a question in Jordan’s entire Bulls career that he was the best player on his team, even as a rookie. Meanwhile, Kobe spent his first 8 seasons often times playing #2 to Shaq’s #1.

Since he became the undisputed “alpha dog” in 2004 with Shaq’s departure, Kobe and the Lakers have: MISSED THE PLAYOFFS ENTIRELY (‘05), been bounced out of the first round after having a 3 games to 1 lead (with Kobe pulling the infamous Game 7 tank job) (‘06), out of first round again (‘07), and made the Finals but lost (‘08).

Best player in the league, much less best of all time? Really?