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		<title>By: Confession of a Reformed Yankee Fan &#171; The Church of Baseball</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/06/05/soccer-made-in-vegas/#comment-95193</link>
		<dc:creator>Confession of a Reformed Yankee Fan &#171; The Church of Baseball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and therefore exempt from critical examination.  The typical American soccer fan, for example, weighs each club&#8217;s pros and cons like those of a political candidate.  He (or she) can carefully consider &#8220;What will my [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and therefore exempt from critical examination.  The typical American soccer fan, for example, weighs each club&#8217;s pros and cons like those of a political candidate.  He (or she) can carefully consider &#8220;What will my [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jerkface</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/06/05/soccer-made-in-vegas/#comment-20801</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerkface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction:  I said &quot;older brother&quot;.  Everton actually is older than the Club I Do Not Speak Of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction:  I said &#8220;older brother&#8221;.  Everton actually is older than the Club I Do Not Speak Of.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerkface</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/06/05/soccer-made-in-vegas/#comment-20800</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerkface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everton.  Toffees have been in the top division more years than any other club--124 out of 130 years.  They were a founding member of The Football League, and remain right there in the Prem, although technically the Premiership split with the Football League in 1992 (all that &quot;revenue sharing&quot; rubbish left the owners of the top clubs down to one helicopter).  If you have a spot in your heart for the hard working kid whose arrogant, vain, spoiled older brother gets all the attention, this Merseyside club is for you.  Liverpool is a great town with great people, in fact Everton is &quot;The People&#039;s Club&quot;.  You said you couldn&#039;t root for the Redsh-, so maybe you should amble over to the other side of Stanley Park to the open arms of the Goodison faithful.  Plus the Merseyside Derby is the best derby in England anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everton.  Toffees have been in the top division more years than any other club&#8211;124 out of 130 years.  They were a founding member of The Football League, and remain right there in the Prem, although technically the Premiership split with the Football League in 1992 (all that &#8220;revenue sharing&#8221; rubbish left the owners of the top clubs down to one helicopter).  If you have a spot in your heart for the hard working kid whose arrogant, vain, spoiled older brother gets all the attention, this Merseyside club is for you.  Liverpool is a great town with great people, in fact Everton is &#8220;The People&#8217;s Club&#8221;.  You said you couldn&#8217;t root for the Redsh-, so maybe you should amble over to the other side of Stanley Park to the open arms of the Goodison faithful.  Plus the Merseyside Derby is the best derby in England anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everton has lots of KC/USMNT connections. Starting US Keeper, Tim Howard is in the nets for the forseeable future. Kansas City Wizards icon Preki played there. Brian McBride was there for a short stint.

As a journalist, you could also get lots of first hand Everton info (and maybe tickets) easily in KC. 

FA Cup Final hero Paul Rideout has lived and coached in Kansas City for years. A must see for any true Everton fan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh9lbsfpFY0&amp;feature=related

He is now the KC Wizards U-16, U-17, and U-18 coach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everton has lots of KC/USMNT connections. Starting US Keeper, Tim Howard is in the nets for the forseeable future. Kansas City Wizards icon Preki played there. Brian McBride was there for a short stint.</p>
<p>As a journalist, you could also get lots of first hand Everton info (and maybe tickets) easily in KC. </p>
<p>FA Cup Final hero Paul Rideout has lived and coached in Kansas City for years. A must see for any true Everton fan.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh9lbsfpFY0&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh9lbsfpFY0&amp;feature=related</a></p>
<p>He is now the KC Wizards U-16, U-17, and U-18 coach.</p>
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		<title>By: Ez Street</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ez Street</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went through a selection process just last week. I wanted a team to call my own and narrowed the field to 4 teams.

Everton (Saw them win the first EPL game I wastched. Great history, Paul McCartney is a fan.)
Portsmouth (Close to my families roots in England)
Arsenal (Cool name, good team)
Aston Villa (Cool name, cool colors)

After much deliberation, I selected Everton.

But the others are ones I&#039;ll likely pull for also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went through a selection process just last week. I wanted a team to call my own and narrowed the field to 4 teams.</p>
<p>Everton (Saw them win the first EPL game I wastched. Great history, Paul McCartney is a fan.)<br />
Portsmouth (Close to my families roots in England)<br />
Arsenal (Cool name, good team)<br />
Aston Villa (Cool name, cool colors)</p>
<p>After much deliberation, I selected Everton.</p>
<p>But the others are ones I&#8217;ll likely pull for also.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joe,

In support of your Manchester City idea, you might read this very fine book called &quot;Manchester United Ruined My Life,&quot; by Colin Shindler.
http://www.amazon.com/Manchester-United-Ruined-My-Life/dp/0747259836/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1212996547&amp;sr=8-1

There is some cricket stuff in there that had me pretty lost (they say it&#039;s like baseball, but other than the fact that one guy has a piece of wood in his hand and another guy is throwing a ball at him, I don&#039;t see a lot of similarities). But even in the parts that I didn&#039;t understand, you can sense that this is a guy who loves his sports and has suffered. It is a fine book for everyone whose identity has been partly defined by suffering with their favorite teams. [Disclaimer: yes, I am a red sox fan... and I know we are no longer allowed to claim suffering status. But I was six when Bucky hit that ball (you can do the math to Buckner, Boone etc)... And I would offer that being always the second best is actually more painful that being dead last every year, as anyone who has ever taken home a &quot;second place&quot; trophy can attest. Is there a more painful and hollow feeling?

And btw, it was a low blow the other day to list the Sox IN FRONT of the Yankees on the list of teams whose supporters are like Man U supporters. For years, in trying to help Americans understand what Man U means, I have simply said, &quot;They are the Yankees of English soccer [sic].&quot; I know it is the chic thing these days to bash sox fans and call us the new Yankees fans. And yes, those of us who have been around for a while are indeed going through something of an identity crisis. But... but... come on Joe. we are still not the Yankees! Just cause we have a streak of a few good years thanks to competent management [and one of the top salaries in the league]... anyway, way off topic here.]

For what it&#039;s worth, I support West Ham, for no better reason than that my closest English friend supports them. But I am not really qualified to make a proper pitch for the team. So I will stick with my recommendation to read the Shindler book.

Keep up the good work!
Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joe,</p>
<p>In support of your Manchester City idea, you might read this very fine book called &#8220;Manchester United Ruined My Life,&#8221; by Colin Shindler.<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Manchester-United-Ruined-My-Life/dp/0747259836/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1212996547&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Manchester-United-Ruined-My-Life/dp/0747259836/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1212996547&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p>There is some cricket stuff in there that had me pretty lost (they say it&#8217;s like baseball, but other than the fact that one guy has a piece of wood in his hand and another guy is throwing a ball at him, I don&#8217;t see a lot of similarities). But even in the parts that I didn&#8217;t understand, you can sense that this is a guy who loves his sports and has suffered. It is a fine book for everyone whose identity has been partly defined by suffering with their favorite teams. [Disclaimer: yes, I am a red sox fan... and I know we are no longer allowed to claim suffering status. But I was six when Bucky hit that ball (you can do the math to Buckner, Boone etc)... And I would offer that being always the second best is actually more painful that being dead last every year, as anyone who has ever taken home a "second place" trophy can attest. Is there a more painful and hollow feeling?</p>
<p>And btw, it was a low blow the other day to list the Sox IN FRONT of the Yankees on the list of teams whose supporters are like Man U supporters. For years, in trying to help Americans understand what Man U means, I have simply said, "They are the Yankees of English soccer [sic].&#8221; I know it is the chic thing these days to bash sox fans and call us the new Yankees fans. And yes, those of us who have been around for a while are indeed going through something of an identity crisis. But&#8230; but&#8230; come on Joe. we are still not the Yankees! Just cause we have a streak of a few good years thanks to competent management [and one of the top salaries in the league]&#8230; anyway, way off topic here.]</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I support West Ham, for no better reason than that my closest English friend supports them. But I am not really qualified to make a proper pitch for the team. So I will stick with my recommendation to read the Shindler book.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work!<br />
Mike</p>
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		<title>By: PatMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come On You Spurs!!!! You gotta pick Tottenham, they have the most vocal fanbase, greatest stadium atmosphere, and are on the verge of cracking into the &quot;Big Four&quot; of the premier league.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come On You Spurs!!!! You gotta pick Tottenham, they have the most vocal fanbase, greatest stadium atmosphere, and are on the verge of cracking into the &#8220;Big Four&#8221; of the premier league.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Mamma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Mamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 08:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction - It is the oldest London club in the Premiership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction &#8211; It is the oldest London club in the Premiership.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Mamma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Mamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 08:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is only one team in the Premiership to support and that is Fulham.  If you support the &#039;big four&#039; a) you are deemed to be jumping on the bandwagon/a glory hunter and b) they can only fail. 

Tottenham always believe they are going to achieve more than then do, as do Newcastle, and so fail in their expectations every year.

Supporting Fulham is like a rollercoaster.  You never know what you will get but the highs are worth it.  On top of that it is the oldest ground in the Premiership and a lovely walk through Bishops Park along the river to get to the ground.  Watching the game, you do actually watch the players instead of a screen (which happens at the bigger clubs as you are so far away the players look about 1in tall).  The fans are really friendly and you still get the old match day experience.  Fulham may not have won the Premiership but they won the best fans league and best chant of the season.  Plus Fulham have more US players than any other team.

All in all, there is only one team to support in the Premiership.  So get practicing - Come On You Whitessssssss (COYW&#039;ssssssssss)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is only one team in the Premiership to support and that is Fulham.  If you support the &#8216;big four&#8217; a) you are deemed to be jumping on the bandwagon/a glory hunter and b) they can only fail. </p>
<p>Tottenham always believe they are going to achieve more than then do, as do Newcastle, and so fail in their expectations every year.</p>
<p>Supporting Fulham is like a rollercoaster.  You never know what you will get but the highs are worth it.  On top of that it is the oldest ground in the Premiership and a lovely walk through Bishops Park along the river to get to the ground.  Watching the game, you do actually watch the players instead of a screen (which happens at the bigger clubs as you are so far away the players look about 1in tall).  The fans are really friendly and you still get the old match day experience.  Fulham may not have won the Premiership but they won the best fans league and best chant of the season.  Plus Fulham have more US players than any other team.</p>
<p>All in all, there is only one team to support in the Premiership.  So get practicing &#8211; Come On You Whitessssssss (COYW&#8217;ssssssssss)</p>
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		<title>By: JeffSol</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeffSol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Pete Rose signs autographs in a memorabilia store in The Forum Shops at Caesars Palace several days a week.  When I walk by that store, which I do with some frequency because it&#039;s across the hall from Stage Deli, one of the few places in town where I can find a good corned beef sandwich, it seems pretty sad...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Pete Rose signs autographs in a memorabilia store in The Forum Shops at Caesars Palace several days a week.  When I walk by that store, which I do with some frequency because it&#8217;s across the hall from Stage Deli, one of the few places in town where I can find a good corned beef sandwich, it seems pretty sad&#8230;</p>
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