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		<title>By: wally</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/03/27/links-thoughts-and-snacks/#comment-11236</link>
		<dc:creator>wally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikey, whether you&#039;re a man or woman really makes no difference, exchange husband for wife or spouse it makes you feel better.

I do believe nearly all of the posts above were implying that they did not believe many of their wifes&#039; excuses (I mean you left it in the freezer, dropped it in your coffee more than once?).  And sure some people probably ignore calls from the spouse because they just call too much with no reason.  I doubt however that makes up a huge portion of the people above.  I can only speak for myself, but  I can tell you I only call my wife about twice a week leaving work (maybe this is way I&#039;m not completely ignored as others above, maybe its just because she&#039;s just better at using a cell phone who knows?).  But trying to trivialize the questions asked or other reasons for a phone call, as you did, doesn&#039;t justify a non-answer.  If we&#039;re out of milk or dog food or what ever, and I didn&#039;t get any at the store while there means someone needs to go get some later.  And if this happens because the spouse is too busy talking to friends or never charges her battery or just plain ignores you it can get annoying.  As you said mikey, cell phones are for making calls, but what&#039;s the point if the other person believes this too and never picks up? 

I&#039;ll end by saying I&#039;m no expert on women or relationships either, but my feeling is that if your spouse ignores you constantly (purposely here, not the &quot;never has it charged&quot; people), what ever the reason, there are bigger problems than, &quot;oh he calls me too much.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikey, whether you&#8217;re a man or woman really makes no difference, exchange husband for wife or spouse it makes you feel better.</p>
<p>I do believe nearly all of the posts above were implying that they did not believe many of their wifes&#8217; excuses (I mean you left it in the freezer, dropped it in your coffee more than once?).  And sure some people probably ignore calls from the spouse because they just call too much with no reason.  I doubt however that makes up a huge portion of the people above.  I can only speak for myself, but  I can tell you I only call my wife about twice a week leaving work (maybe this is way I&#8217;m not completely ignored as others above, maybe its just because she&#8217;s just better at using a cell phone who knows?).  But trying to trivialize the questions asked or other reasons for a phone call, as you did, doesn&#8217;t justify a non-answer.  If we&#8217;re out of milk or dog food or what ever, and I didn&#8217;t get any at the store while there means someone needs to go get some later.  And if this happens because the spouse is too busy talking to friends or never charges her battery or just plain ignores you it can get annoying.  As you said mikey, cell phones are for making calls, but what&#8217;s the point if the other person believes this too and never picks up? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll end by saying I&#8217;m no expert on women or relationships either, but my feeling is that if your spouse ignores you constantly (purposely here, not the &#8220;never has it charged&#8221; people), what ever the reason, there are bigger problems than, &#8220;oh he calls me too much.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mikey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason - 

Interesting comments. Of course, my post was exaggerated and I&#039;m a guy. But your remarks were compelling nonetheless.

After reading ten comments from guys assuming that their wives were either deaf or just spacey I thought it would be worth it to at least consider the possibility that they may just not want to take the call.

I&#039;m no expert on women, but I think it&#039;s possible that some of them, having received enough phone calls inquiring about the current stock of dog food in the house, might just not want to be bothered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason &#8211; </p>
<p>Interesting comments. Of course, my post was exaggerated and I&#8217;m a guy. But your remarks were compelling nonetheless.</p>
<p>After reading ten comments from guys assuming that their wives were either deaf or just spacey I thought it would be worth it to at least consider the possibility that they may just not want to take the call.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no expert on women, but I think it&#8217;s possible that some of them, having received enough phone calls inquiring about the current stock of dog food in the house, might just not want to be bothered.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Paul White, Please go back and read my entire post before jumping to your â€œeveryone is bashing KUâ€ conclusions.&lt;/i&gt;

I will.  As soon as you show me where I said everyone is bashing KU.

&lt;i&gt;...I said Weber is a better coach than Self. I also said that college B-ball is 85% recruiting, which was just regurgitating what Self had said in an interview about his first year in the tournement with Tulsa. You then said that you would take the guy with the better record and the three elite 8 teams.&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, I said I&#039;d take the guy who&#039;s coached more games, won a better percentage of them, and enjoyed success at more schools.  (And took 4 teams to the Elite Eight, not 3.  But who&#039;s counting?) 

&lt;i&gt;How did Self get to those Elite 8 teams? Because college BBall is 85% talent and he is a better recruiter.&lt;/i&gt;

Yup.  I&#039;m sure that&#039;s how Self&#039;s &#039;99-&#039;00 Tulsa team beat the 2nd-seeded Cincinnati Bearcats of Bob Huggins to reach the Sweet 16.  Better talent.

Not quite sure how that explains they guy who followed Self at Tulsa going to just the NIT the very next year with the same players. Or how it explains why Self managed to go 27-8, win the Big 10 and go to the Elite Eight in his first year at Illinois with the same players Lon Kruger left behind after a 22-10 record the year before.  But I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll tell me.

&lt;i&gt;Did Self do better with the talent he recruited to Illinois than Weber? The answer is no, he didnâ€™t.&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, the answer is that their two most comparable teams - Self&#039;s final team at Illinois, and Weber&#039;s first team at Illinois - posted nearly identical results.  Self went 25-7, won the conference post-season title and got a #4 seed while playing largely freshmen and sophomores.  Weber went 26-7, won the conference regular-season title and got a #5 seed while playing largely sophomores and juniors.  It wasn&#039;t until those same players were juniors and seniors the next season that Weber enjoyed appreciably more success.  Which, frankly, I&#039;d certainly hope would be the case with such an experienced team.  

&lt;i&gt;Why? Because Weber is a better coach.&lt;/i&gt;

Or, like I said, it could be solely because Self&#039;s freshmen and sophomores were finally juniors and seniors, and all Weber did was ride them to a great record in &#039;04-&#039;05.  Seems equally plausible.

&lt;i&gt;Would Illinois fans take Self over Weber? Every one of us would because College sports are about talent. That is why we have Ron Zook. 85% recruiting, 15% coaching.&lt;/i&gt;

And I just happen to think that all signs point to Self&#039;s 15% coaching being at least as good as Bruce Weber&#039;s 15%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Paul White, Please go back and read my entire post before jumping to your â€œeveryone is bashing KUâ€ conclusions.</i></p>
<p>I will.  As soon as you show me where I said everyone is bashing KU.</p>
<p><i>&#8230;I said Weber is a better coach than Self. I also said that college B-ball is 85% recruiting, which was just regurgitating what Self had said in an interview about his first year in the tournement with Tulsa. You then said that you would take the guy with the better record and the three elite 8 teams.</i></p>
<p>Actually, I said I&#8217;d take the guy who&#8217;s coached more games, won a better percentage of them, and enjoyed success at more schools.  (And took 4 teams to the Elite Eight, not 3.  But who&#8217;s counting?) </p>
<p><i>How did Self get to those Elite 8 teams? Because college BBall is 85% talent and he is a better recruiter.</i></p>
<p>Yup.  I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s how Self&#8217;s &#8216;99-&#8217;00 Tulsa team beat the 2nd-seeded Cincinnati Bearcats of Bob Huggins to reach the Sweet 16.  Better talent.</p>
<p>Not quite sure how that explains they guy who followed Self at Tulsa going to just the NIT the very next year with the same players. Or how it explains why Self managed to go 27-8, win the Big 10 and go to the Elite Eight in his first year at Illinois with the same players Lon Kruger left behind after a 22-10 record the year before.  But I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll tell me.</p>
<p><i>Did Self do better with the talent he recruited to Illinois than Weber? The answer is no, he didnâ€™t.</i></p>
<p>Actually, the answer is that their two most comparable teams &#8211; Self&#8217;s final team at Illinois, and Weber&#8217;s first team at Illinois &#8211; posted nearly identical results.  Self went 25-7, won the conference post-season title and got a #4 seed while playing largely freshmen and sophomores.  Weber went 26-7, won the conference regular-season title and got a #5 seed while playing largely sophomores and juniors.  It wasn&#8217;t until those same players were juniors and seniors the next season that Weber enjoyed appreciably more success.  Which, frankly, I&#8217;d certainly hope would be the case with such an experienced team.  </p>
<p><i>Why? Because Weber is a better coach.</i></p>
<p>Or, like I said, it could be solely because Self&#8217;s freshmen and sophomores were finally juniors and seniors, and all Weber did was ride them to a great record in &#8216;04-&#8217;05.  Seems equally plausible.</p>
<p><i>Would Illinois fans take Self over Weber? Every one of us would because College sports are about talent. That is why we have Ron Zook. 85% recruiting, 15% coaching.</i></p>
<p>And I just happen to think that all signs point to Self&#8217;s 15% coaching being at least as good as Bruce Weber&#8217;s 15%.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul White,  Please go back and read my entire post before jumping to your &quot;everyone is bashing KU&quot; conclusions.  Or don&#039;t, I will give you the abridged version right here.  I said Weber is a better coach than Self.  I also said that college B-ball is 85% recruiting, which was just regurgitating what Self had said in an interview about his first year in the tournement with Tulsa.  You then said that you would take the guy with the better record and the three elite 8 teams.  How did Self get to those Elite 8 teams?  Because college BBall is 85% talent and he is a better recruiter. Did Self do better with the talent he recruited to Illinois than Weber?  The answer is no, he didn&#039;t.  Why? Because Weber is a better coach.  Would Illinois fans take Self over Weber?  Every one of us would because College sports are about talent.  That is why we have Ron Zook.  85% recruiting, 15% coaching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul White,  Please go back and read my entire post before jumping to your &#8220;everyone is bashing KU&#8221; conclusions.  Or don&#8217;t, I will give you the abridged version right here.  I said Weber is a better coach than Self.  I also said that college B-ball is 85% recruiting, which was just regurgitating what Self had said in an interview about his first year in the tournement with Tulsa.  You then said that you would take the guy with the better record and the three elite 8 teams.  How did Self get to those Elite 8 teams?  Because college BBall is 85% talent and he is a better recruiter. Did Self do better with the talent he recruited to Illinois than Weber?  The answer is no, he didn&#8217;t.  Why? Because Weber is a better coach.  Would Illinois fans take Self over Weber?  Every one of us would because College sports are about talent.  That is why we have Ron Zook.  85% recruiting, 15% coaching.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like many of the replies here, I have a cell phone comment to make.  My wife answers her phone about maybe 1/2 the time when I call.  But what is funny is that her mother is exactly like your wife joe and her father might as well have his blue tooth headset surgically implanted into his ear.  So my theory is that cell phone habbits are herritable, probably in a co-dominate fashion.  Though back to my wife, she often will pick my call up right away, but when she doesn&#039;t its for most of the reasons above.  She can&#039;t hear it on vibrate in her purse, she&#039;s on the phone with her friends, or she left it in the car.  My personal favorite is when I call her about something of moderate importance, usually as I&#039;m leaving work, and 1/2 hour later when we&#039;re both home from work she&#039;s talking on the phone with a friend and when she&#039;s finally done talking she&#039;ll ask, &quot;what did you call me about?&quot;  And its usually, &quot;well I was at the store and I wasn&#039;t sure if we were out of dog food.&quot; Now I know, I know, these things aren&#039;t worth getting worked up about, but isn&#039;t this what cell phones are for?  Like the guy above said, it takes 10 seconds to answer a question like this, and besides the chance that it might REALLY be important, it saves time down the road.  And we all have that thing called call waiting on our cell phones now....

And mikey: &quot;As far as Iâ€™m concerned that thing is for making calls, not taking them.&quot;

Basically you&#039;re saying you&#039;re more important than anything someone might be calling you about.  That&#039;s a really good personality trait to have.

And then you say this: &quot;You guys are crazy if you think your wives and girlfriends are failing to answer the phone for any reason other than that they donâ€™t want to take your call.&quot;

See the problem is you can&#039;t speak for anyone else.  Its pretty obvious when the phone is off or dead versus being ignored or not noticed, for instance, but you fail to take that into account in your, &quot;failing to answer the phone for any reason other than that they donâ€™t want to take your call&quot; statement.  So all you&#039;re doing is generalizing what YOU do to what everyone else&#039;s wife does.  So you aren&#039;t speaking for them, you&#039;re just speaking for yourself.  You obviously have a terrific relationship with your husband.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like many of the replies here, I have a cell phone comment to make.  My wife answers her phone about maybe 1/2 the time when I call.  But what is funny is that her mother is exactly like your wife joe and her father might as well have his blue tooth headset surgically implanted into his ear.  So my theory is that cell phone habbits are herritable, probably in a co-dominate fashion.  Though back to my wife, she often will pick my call up right away, but when she doesn&#8217;t its for most of the reasons above.  She can&#8217;t hear it on vibrate in her purse, she&#8217;s on the phone with her friends, or she left it in the car.  My personal favorite is when I call her about something of moderate importance, usually as I&#8217;m leaving work, and 1/2 hour later when we&#8217;re both home from work she&#8217;s talking on the phone with a friend and when she&#8217;s finally done talking she&#8217;ll ask, &#8220;what did you call me about?&#8221;  And its usually, &#8220;well I was at the store and I wasn&#8217;t sure if we were out of dog food.&#8221; Now I know, I know, these things aren&#8217;t worth getting worked up about, but isn&#8217;t this what cell phones are for?  Like the guy above said, it takes 10 seconds to answer a question like this, and besides the chance that it might REALLY be important, it saves time down the road.  And we all have that thing called call waiting on our cell phones now&#8230;.</p>
<p>And mikey: &#8220;As far as Iâ€™m concerned that thing is for making calls, not taking them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Basically you&#8217;re saying you&#8217;re more important than anything someone might be calling you about.  That&#8217;s a really good personality trait to have.</p>
<p>And then you say this: &#8220;You guys are crazy if you think your wives and girlfriends are failing to answer the phone for any reason other than that they donâ€™t want to take your call.&#8221;</p>
<p>See the problem is you can&#8217;t speak for anyone else.  Its pretty obvious when the phone is off or dead versus being ignored or not noticed, for instance, but you fail to take that into account in your, &#8220;failing to answer the phone for any reason other than that they donâ€™t want to take your call&#8221; statement.  So all you&#8217;re doing is generalizing what YOU do to what everyone else&#8217;s wife does.  So you aren&#8217;t speaking for them, you&#8217;re just speaking for yourself.  You obviously have a terrific relationship with your husband&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s funny Kent ~ I can relate to that one. No man has ever made a phone call that lasted longer than 10 seconds that didn&#039;t involve him having to talk about things he didn&#039;t plan to when he made the call.

Me: &quot;Hi it&#039;s Brian. Do you need me to pick up anything from the store on my way home?&quot;

Wife: &quot;No that&#039;s okay.&quot;

Me: &quot;Okay I&#039;ll see you in 10 minutes or so.&quot;

Wife: &quot;Wait, I have to tell you what happened to me today.&quot;

My inner thoughts: &quot;Son of a.........&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s funny Kent ~ I can relate to that one. No man has ever made a phone call that lasted longer than 10 seconds that didn&#8217;t involve him having to talk about things he didn&#8217;t plan to when he made the call.</p>
<p>Me: &#8220;Hi it&#8217;s Brian. Do you need me to pick up anything from the store on my way home?&#8221;</p>
<p>Wife: &#8220;No that&#8217;s okay.&#8221;</p>
<p>Me: &#8220;Okay I&#8217;ll see you in 10 minutes or so.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wife: &#8220;Wait, I have to tell you what happened to me today.&#8221;</p>
<p>My inner thoughts: &#8220;Son of a&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mikey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, if you&#039;re reading these comments, how about a few words on the new seating configuration for basketball at Ford Field? It sounds cool and in photographs it looks like a big improvement over old dome basketball configurations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, if you&#8217;re reading these comments, how about a few words on the new seating configuration for basketball at Ford Field? It sounds cool and in photographs it looks like a big improvement over old dome basketball configurations.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife never answers when I call either...but it is because she is already on it talking to someone else!  I can hear her now, &quot;Oh, it&#039;s Kent...I&#039;ll call him back&quot;.  And she does this knowing that my phone calls will never take more than 10 seconds for me to tell her what I need.  So, even though I had a few minutes at work that I could call her, she doesn&#039;t answer, and then calls me 5 minutes later when the window of opportunity has closed.  Oh, and she never listens to the succinct voice mail I just left her that would have explained everything.

Thank you for letting me vent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife never answers when I call either&#8230;but it is because she is already on it talking to someone else!  I can hear her now, &#8220;Oh, it&#8217;s Kent&#8230;I&#8217;ll call him back&#8221;.  And she does this knowing that my phone calls will never take more than 10 seconds for me to tell her what I need.  So, even though I had a few minutes at work that I could call her, she doesn&#8217;t answer, and then calls me 5 minutes later when the window of opportunity has closed.  Oh, and she never listens to the succinct voice mail I just left her that would have explained everything.</p>
<p>Thank you for letting me vent.</p>
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		<title>By: Melody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s actually my husband who never answers his cellphone... he tends to forget to bring it with him often, and when he does have it, he usually forgets to turn it on.  This isn&#039;t exactly out of character for him-- he&#039;s a bit spacey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s actually my husband who never answers his cellphone&#8230; he tends to forget to bring it with him often, and when he does have it, he usually forgets to turn it on.  This isn&#8217;t exactly out of character for him&#8211; he&#8217;s a bit spacey.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ - Sorry to jump to conclusions, but your analogy of Self wanting to pull a Warden Norton led me to believe you thought Nova would win, since I think it&#039;s pretty unlikely that Self would feel that was after winning a Sweet 16 game, close or not.

Regardless, I&#039;ll gladly eat crow here if Reynolds proves to be the best player on the floor tonight.  Since the guy I compared him to earlier will be guarding him (and, by the way, may not even be KU&#039;s  best player), it should be an interesting test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ &#8211; Sorry to jump to conclusions, but your analogy of Self wanting to pull a Warden Norton led me to believe you thought Nova would win, since I think it&#8217;s pretty unlikely that Self would feel that was after winning a Sweet 16 game, close or not.</p>
<p>Regardless, I&#8217;ll gladly eat crow here if Reynolds proves to be the best player on the floor tonight.  Since the guy I compared him to earlier will be guarding him (and, by the way, may not even be KU&#8217;s  best player), it should be an interesting test.</p>
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