I’m a big fan of the bubble in college basketball. To me, the NCAA Tournament bubble has to be the most famous bubble in America now. Sure, you have the economic bubble, the Dot Com bubble, speech bubbles, soap bubbles, double bubble, Hubba Bubba, bubble wrap*, bubble baths, the bubble boy from Seinfeld (“Sorry, the correct answer is Moops!”), the bubble that naive people live in and so on. I think the NCAA tournament bubble has taken the overall lead.
*I cannot tell you why I find this to be strangely enjoyable.
In any case, the reason I like the NCAA bubble is that it can create savage arguments, fistfights, get friends to stop speaking to each other, etc. And this year’s most savage bubble talk revolves around the Kansas State men’s basketball team. You probably know that Kansas State has the most electrifying player in college basketball this season, the presumptive No. 1 pick in next year’s NBA draft, Michael Beasley. This guy is so good he just racked up 39 against Kansas at Allen Fieldhouse* in a game where he was in early foul trouble and didn’t even seem to think he played all that well. He’s averaged 27 points and 13 rebounds as a freshman — it’s ludicrous, really.
The seven coolest places I’ve ever watched a college basketball game:
1. Allen Fieldhouse
2. Pauley Pavillion
3. Carmichael Auditorium
4. Cameron Indoor Stadium
5. Rupp Arena
6. Assembly Hall
7. Gallager-Iba.
Honorable mention: The old Ohio State arena, Vanderbilt, the old Mizzou arena, the old Mineshaft of my school UNC Charlotte.
Place I’m dying to see a game: The Palestra.
Coolest basketball thing I’ve ever seen: It was actually a college game, but the cool thing didn’t have much to do with basketball anyway. It was at a huge high school basketball game — Lower Richland vs. Eau Claire in Columbia, S.C., packed arena, 12,000 or more, to see high school sensation Stanley Roberts, who would go on to a decent NBA career. Then he was a phenomenon so there wasn’t an empty seat in the house. The place was absolutely electric.
But here’s what I remember … halftime of that game, and there was a double-dutch jump rope exhibition, which was pretty entertaining. One of the girls in the exhibition was a bit heavyset — her job seemed to be rope twirling. She didn’t do anything else. The exhibition was wrapping up, and then she got ready to jump. The place buzzed — I’m telling you, it was incredible. And then she jumped in, and she was AMAZING, and I can tell you that I’ve been to Super Bowls, to Rose Bowls, to Michael Jordan’s comeback, to Duke-Carolina and Kansas-Missouri games that went down to the last minute, to Yankee Stadium when Derek Jeter hit the November midnight home run, to the Olympics when Rulon Gardner beat the unbeatable Russian and Michael Johnson ran faster than anyone has ever run and Muhammad Ali lit the torch, to the Masters when Tiger Woods reinvented golf. I have NEVER AGAIN heard it as loud as that day in Columbia, S.C. when that girl jumped into the double-dutch rope.
The trouble is, that while Beasley has been a revelation, Kansas State’s season hasn’t been all that special. It has had some nice peaks — the Wildcats FINALLY beat Kansas at home after a disheartening 25-year gap — but it’s had some uninspiring valleys too. The Wildcats are now 18-10, they have that one nice victory over Kansas, they have one nice road win at Oklahoma, and they have one blowout victory over Texas A&M, a victory that loses impact by the minute as A&M collapses and … well, that’s about it. They also have road losses at Nebraska, Missouri and Texas Tech, they were destroyed at Xavier and beaten pretty good by George Mason. They are 3-6 against Top 50 RPI teams, and if A&M continues to tumble out of the Top 50 … that suddenly becomes 2-6 which, my accounting background tells me, is worse. They have lost four games in a row and are limping to the finish line. They also have one of the toughest schedules in America. It’s a mixed bag.
If Kansas State was a normal baseball team, it would be plopped right on the NCAA bubble. You only have to go back to last year — when the Wildcats won 22 games, won 10 games in the Big 12 conference, won a tournament game and … got left at home. This year, if they win their last two games they will be 20-10 aft the end of the season with 10 victories in the conference. Very bubbly.
The Wildcats are also ranked 42nd in the RPI. To give you a little history:
2007:
41. Florida State, left at home despite winning 20 games.
43. Drexel, left at home despite 22-8 and 7-3 in final 10 games.
44. Purdue, goes to NCAA Tournament with 21-11 record.
45. Utah State, left at home with 22-11 record.
46. Clemson, left at home with 21 wins and five Top 50 victories.
47. Vanderbilt goes to NCAA Tournament with 19-11 record.
48. Alabama, left at home with 20-11 record.
2006:
41. Kentucky goes to the NCAA Tournament with 21-12 record.
43. St, Joe’s left at home with 18-13 mark.
44. Texas A&M goes to NCAA Tournament with 21-8 record.
45. Arkansas goes to NCAA Tournament with 22-9 record.
46. Utah State goes to NCAA Tournament with 22-8 record.
47. Michigan left at home with 18-10 record.
49. Maryland left at home with 18-12 record.
2005
41. Texas goes to NCAA Tournament with 19-10 record
42. Iowa goes to the NCAA Tournament with 21-11 record
43. Miami (OH) left at home at 18-10.
45. Wichita State left at home with 20-9
46. Buffalo left at home with 22-9
49 UAB goes to NCAA Tournament with 21-10
2004
41. Arizona goes to NCAA Tournament at 20-9
43. Utah State left at home despite 24-3 record
45. South Carolina goes to NCAA Tournament at 23-10
46. Texas El Paso goes to NCAA Tournament at 22-7
47. Richmond goes to NCAA Tournament at 20-12
48. Georgia left at home at 16-13
49. Notre Dame left at home at 17-12
2003
42. Seton Hall left at home at 17-12
43. Gonzaga goes to NCAA Tournament at 23-8
46. Colorado goes to NCAA Tournament at 20-11
47. Indiana goes to NCAA Tournament at 20-12
48. Texas Tech left at home with 18-11 record
49. Boston College left at home with 18-11 record.
2002
43. Villanova left at home at 17-12
44. Mississippi goes to NCAA Tournament at 19-10
46. Arkansas left at home at 14-15
47. South Carolina left at home at 17-13
48. UNLV left at home at 20-9
49. Virginia left at home at 17-11
As you can see, being in the 40s in RPI is risky business. By my count, since 2002, just 17 of 49 teams in the RPI 40s got at-large bids. It does seem to help if you:
1. Come from a major conference.
2. Win 20 games or more.
Kansas State has the major conference. And the Wildcats will get 20 wins if they take care of business this week, beat Colorado at home on Tuesday and win at Iowa State on Saturday. My guess is if they win both those games, they will get in with reasonable comfort (they also could, conceivably, sneak into the high 30s in RPI where their odds improve dramatically).
However if Kansas State would happen to lose at Iowa State — unlikely, but not impossible considering some of the Wildcats’ road losses already this year — then I think the Wildcats are on the outside looking in and will need to impress some people at the Big 12 Tournament. (I’m assuming that Kansas State will beat Colorado by about 70 points at home Tuesday night … I’ll be there and I have a hunch that the Wildcats are about to unload some frustration. Obviously if Kansas State loses that game then they have BIG problems.).
OK, so that’s fairly typical bubble talk. What’s different about this team? It’s Michael Beasley. The question here is … even if Kansas State loses this week, even if the Wildcats have a less-than-inspiring NCAA case, even if the committee would leave them at home under normal circumstance, well, these aren’t normal circumstances. Would the tournament committee leave the most exciting player in college basketball at home? Would they really have their tournament without the biggest star in the game? Kansas State, in my mind, can put the question to rest with two victories this week. But another stumble … and the committee will be very much on the spot.
16 Comments, Comment or Ping
Mitchiapet
Joe,
You do realize there’s about 13 Assembly Halls (give or take the fact that I didn’t actually count, just seems that way). I’m assuming you’re talking about that school where The Cheater was recently canned, but please clarify for the masses. Otherwise, my Illini fanatic self could start getting delusional and think you were talking about the world’s largest edge supported dome.
Mar 3rd, 2008
Minda
How nice does KSU’s win over Oklahoma look now that Nebraska (who beat KSU) has also beaten Oklahoma? Does that matter much? As an irrational Husker fan and Beasley hater, I hope it does. For the record, my hatred of Beasley has nothing to do with his play — he’s exciting and amazing and all — but rather the fact that he’s a huge brat.
Mar 3rd, 2008
Paul White
I think the NCAA will put K-State in because of the Beasley Factor, and my gut reaction is that it’s not right if they do. I mean, this is a team sport, right? I love watching great individual play as much as anyone, but how is it fair to, say, Kentucky, they of the 10-4 SEC record, to adapt to a new coach, recover from a rough start, and finish strong in a tough conference, only to be passed over for a school with one great player, one talented head case and a cast of nobodies who are playing mediocre-to-bad hoops?
Picking K-State over those schools or a few others is essentially sending the message that it’s okay to make an AAU coach the highest-paid assistant in the NCAA just because he happened to have a cozy relationship with the best high school player in the country. To hell with something as crazy as playing good team basketball. Who wants to see that?
Mar 3rd, 2008
Josh
In all fairness to K-State they do have two really good players (well one great and one very good) … Bill Walker will be a mid to late first round pick as well….
Mar 3rd, 2008
Paul White
“Bill Walker will be a mid to late first round pick as well….”
Yeah, he’s the talented head case I was referring to. If you pee on the court during a game, that’ll get you the head case label every time.
Mar 3rd, 2008
Dachs
Joe, love the blog, and ordinarily am not the type to point out typos, but did you really spell Derek Jeter, Derrick Jeter?
Editor’s note: Yikes. Fixed.
Mar 3rd, 2008
Fran
What is the point of putting Kansas State into the tournament if they are going to be knocked out during the first weekend anyway?
I like Mackey Arena, but I’m prejudiced.
Mar 4th, 2008
Stoney
Fran, strangely enough, 49 teams are knocked out the 1st weekend. 20 wins & a conf tourney win, and Beasley should be in the dance.
Joe, place you should be REALLY dying to see a game: Hinkle Fieldhouse.
Mar 4th, 2008
PC
One big difference between this year and last year (and many other years that I haven’t fully researched) is that the bubble this year is incredibly weak. Every conference looks similar to the Big 12, with 2-4 locks, and a mess of mediocrity after that. Lots of people think Arizona State will surely get in, and their RPI is in the 60s. To me, that plus the Beasley factor plus the KU win plus a likely top-4 conference finish means that KSU will almost certainly get in unless they lose at Iowa State AND their first Big 12 tourney game (or if there is a ridiculous number of conference tournament upsets).
Mar 4th, 2008
Mark H
Hinkle Fieldhouse… Yes, I’ve heard that’s a good place, but to see a Big 5 double-header in the Palestra. Absolute Magic. The Palestra is to college hoops what Fenway or Wrigley is to baseball. One writer years ago described it thus:
Where 100 sound like 1,000; 1,000 sounds like 10,000; and a full house sounds like nothing you’ve ever heard.
Mar 4th, 2008
Fezzik
Joe, were you referring to pre-expansion Gallagher-Iba? How they expanded the place while retaining the aura was incredible. Of course, how many D1 gyms are named after a WRESTLING coach???
Mar 4th, 2008
JRM
Joe,
The old St. John’s arena at Ohio State “was” a great venue. I also love The Pit in Albuquerque, and Rupp Arena.
Mar 4th, 2008
John McCann
No MSG on top places to see a game?
I enjoyed the NIT there last year, and the Big East tournament is supposedly a big deal.
Plus it’s nice to actually see good games between skilled teams in the building.
Mar 4th, 2008
Brent
I ‘m dying to see a game at the Palestra…I’m glad it almost made your list too
Mar 5th, 2008
Jeff Erickson
I’ll second (third?) the mention of Hinkle Fieldhouse. Simply an incredible place to see a game - I grew up in Indiana and saw a handful of high school games (packed to the gills) there.
Another place that was great - the old Fieldhouse in Madison, Wisconsin. Talk about a place that held the noise well…
Mar 6th, 2008
Tod
Paul, to mention Kentucky compared to K-State is laughable. Outside of Tennessee and Vandy, the SEC is largely a joke this season, hardly a tough conference as you suggest. Even if you throw out the loss 40-some-point loss to Vandy, which I don’t see how you can, Kentucky’s resume has too many bad losses — 16 to Gardner Webb, 11 to San Diego — and too many holes. Even the win at Vandy came in 2OT at home, a good win but hardly inspiring. Plus, Patrick Patterson is done for the season. I think Kentucky is definitely a bubble team. Do you really see the Wildcats in the top half of the Big 12, though? If you’re arguing UK belongs in the field, you practically have to concede K-State belongs. Check the Sagarin ratings, check virtually every conceivable rating system available. It’s no contest, baby.
Mar 8th, 2008
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