Comments on: Roger, Roger. What’s our Vector, Victor? http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/02/12/roger-roger-whats-our-vector-victor/ Curiously Long Posts Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:52:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: sidd finch http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/02/12/roger-roger-whats-our-vector-victor/#comment-8750 sidd finch Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:24:11 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/02/10/roger-roger-whats-our-vector-victor/#comment-8750 Speaking of Lucifer, just use your imagination, and substitute Clemens in the James Brown role. You know he would have done this if he had the chance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQcnTbFDVIM Speaking of Lucifer, just use your imagination, and substitute Clemens in the James Brown role. You know he would have done this if he had the chance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQcnTbFDVIM

]]> By: sidd finch http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/02/12/roger-roger-whats-our-vector-victor/#comment-8749 sidd finch Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:00:36 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/02/10/roger-roger-whats-our-vector-victor/#comment-8749 Haven't you heard? Roidger also invented post-its. Brian told him to make them yellow. Haven’t you heard? Roidger also invented post-its. Brian told him to make them yellow.

]]> By: Clayton http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/02/12/roger-roger-whats-our-vector-victor/#comment-8563 Clayton Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:55:40 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/02/10/roger-roger-whats-our-vector-victor/#comment-8563 Wahoo McDaniel was cool, but I don't care about wrestling. Roger Clemens lying about everything as loud as he can (my best guess, but I wouldn't vote to convict under a "beyond reasonable doubt" standard) is just evidence that he bought into the contemporary corporate ethical schematic in which denial need only be plausible if it isn't necessary. *More important than that*: Three intrepid heroes will be welcomed at the Posnanski Fan Club Yahoo! Fantasy Baseball League!!! [http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/44683] To claim your spot (c'mon Joe!) 1) go to http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/ (2) select the blue “Join a league” button, (3) choose the far left “custom league” option (4) plug in league ID: 44683 password: soulofbaseball Wahoo McDaniel was cool, but I don’t care about wrestling.

Roger Clemens lying about everything as loud as he can (my best guess, but I wouldn’t vote to convict under a “beyond reasonable doubt” standard) is just evidence that he bought into the contemporary corporate ethical schematic in which denial need only be plausible if it isn’t necessary.

*More important than that*: Three intrepid heroes will be welcomed at the Posnanski Fan Club Yahoo! Fantasy Baseball League!!! [http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/44683]

To claim your spot (c’mon Joe!)

1) go to http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/

(2) select the blue “Join a league” button,

(3) choose the far left “custom league” option

(4) plug in league ID: 44683
password: soulofbaseball

]]> By: JT http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/02/12/roger-roger-whats-our-vector-victor/#comment-8555 JT Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:53:05 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/02/10/roger-roger-whats-our-vector-victor/#comment-8555 Those new fake guys couldn't fake it like those old fake guys. Those new fake guys couldn’t fake it like those old fake guys.

]]> By: JRM http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/02/12/roger-roger-whats-our-vector-victor/#comment-8554 JRM Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:31:34 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/02/10/roger-roger-whats-our-vector-victor/#comment-8554 anyone here old enough to remember the REAL fake wrestlers - bobo brazil, gorgeous george, fritz von erich, antonino rocca? those were the days. Jim, you're right. Those guys were the best. I haven't been able to stomach pro wrestling since I quit watching Bobo and Fritz. anyone here old enough to remember the REAL fake wrestlers – bobo brazil, gorgeous george, fritz von erich, antonino rocca? those were the days.

Jim, you’re right. Those guys were the best. I haven’t been able to stomach pro wrestling since I quit watching Bobo and Fritz.

]]> By: steve http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/02/12/roger-roger-whats-our-vector-victor/#comment-8553 steve Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:25:38 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/02/10/roger-roger-whats-our-vector-victor/#comment-8553 great piece joe, but i really miss that dog's ass at the top of the page :...( great piece joe, but i really miss that dog’s ass at the top of the page :…(

]]> By: jim http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/02/12/roger-roger-whats-our-vector-victor/#comment-8545 jim Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:46:06 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/02/10/roger-roger-whats-our-vector-victor/#comment-8545 anyone here old enough to remember the REAL fake wrestlers - bobo brazil, gorgeous george, fritz von erich, antonino rocca? those were the days. anyone here old enough to remember the REAL fake wrestlers – bobo brazil, gorgeous george, fritz von erich, antonino rocca? those were the days.

]]> By: bellylard http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/02/12/roger-roger-whats-our-vector-victor/#comment-8537 bellylard Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:13:14 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/02/10/roger-roger-whats-our-vector-victor/#comment-8537 Joe, what can you make of this story (hands him newspaper) I can make a hat, or a broach, or a pteradactyl. Joe, what can you make of this story (hands him newspaper)

I can make a hat, or a broach, or a pteradactyl.

]]> By: Larry http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/02/12/roger-roger-whats-our-vector-victor/#comment-8527 Larry Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:28:24 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/02/10/roger-roger-whats-our-vector-victor/#comment-8527 Yes, Big Chief Wahoo McDaniel was an original Jet. Those guys stayed in a beachfront hotel on the sandbar I called home as a kid. We would wander the halls, knocking on doors, asking, "Do you play for the Jets?" Chief Wahoo would always sign something, and often tell us which other doors to knock on. Man, he was round. ROUND. I have no idea if or how Pro Wrestling has changed, but Pro Football wouldn't hire a guy in Wahoo's body to be the water boy anymore. Yes,
Big Chief Wahoo McDaniel was an original Jet.

Those guys stayed in a beachfront hotel on the sandbar I called home as a kid. We would wander the halls, knocking on doors, asking, “Do you play for the Jets?” Chief Wahoo would always sign something, and often tell us which other doors to knock on. Man, he was round. ROUND. I have no idea if or how Pro Wrestling has changed, but Pro Football wouldn’t hire a guy in Wahoo’s body to be the water boy anymore.

]]> By: Byron http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/02/12/roger-roger-whats-our-vector-victor/#comment-8525 Byron Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:06:39 +0000 http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/02/10/roger-roger-whats-our-vector-victor/#comment-8525 "I remember Roger’s inglorious exit from Boston and Dan Duquette’s famous pronouncement that he was done." You don't remember it very well then because Duquette never actually said that Roger was in "the twilight of his career". This is the exact quote: "The Red Sox and our fans were fortunate to see Roger Clemens play in his prime and we had hoped to keep him in Boston during the twilight of his career," said Duquette, who joined Harrington on a conference call yesterday afternoon. "We just want to let the fans know that we worked extremely hard to sign Roger Clemens. . . . We made him a substantial, competitive offer, by far the most money ever offered to a player in the history of the Red Sox franchise." It's not surprising that Clemens misinterpreted with Duquette said because he's a moron, but for the main stream press to constantly and consistently get the quote incorrect is something else all together. What I think that Duquette meant was: a long term deal could've kept Roger in Boston through out the end of his career. He never said or implied that his career was over, just that he could've been a Red Sox until the end. Duquette was terrible with the press, but was a decent general manager. And with the information that he had at the time, it's easy to see why he didn't cave in to Clemens' salary demands. Besides, John Harrington had taken over the negotiation and that snake let Duquette twist in the wind over the fall out. “I remember Roger’s inglorious exit from Boston and Dan Duquette’s famous pronouncement that he was done.”

You don’t remember it very well then because Duquette never actually said that Roger was in “the twilight of his career”. This is the exact quote:

“The Red Sox and our fans were fortunate to see Roger Clemens play in his prime and we had hoped to keep him in Boston during the twilight of his career,” said Duquette, who joined Harrington on a conference call yesterday afternoon. “We just want to let the fans know that we worked extremely hard to sign Roger Clemens. . . . We made him a substantial, competitive offer, by far the most money ever offered to a player in the history of the Red Sox franchise.”

It’s not surprising that Clemens misinterpreted with Duquette said because he’s a moron, but for the main stream press to constantly and consistently get the quote incorrect is something else all together.

What I think that Duquette meant was: a long term deal could’ve kept Roger in Boston through out the end of his career. He never said or implied that his career was over, just that he could’ve been a Red Sox until the end.

Duquette was terrible with the press, but was a decent general manager. And with the information that he had at the time, it’s easy to see why he didn’t cave in to Clemens’ salary demands. Besides, John Harrington had taken over the negotiation and that snake let Duquette twist in the wind over the fall out.

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