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	<title>Comments on: Royals don&#8217;t land Santana &#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: El Guapo</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/01/30/royals-dont-land-santana/#comment-6944</link>
		<dc:creator>El Guapo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Twins fan I&#039;ll miss Johan every 5th day but I am really excited to see him get the chance to bat in the NL.  I think he&#039;ll take the Silver Slugger for the NL this year.  The Mets got a complete player, not just the best lefthander of this generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Twins fan I&#8217;ll miss Johan every 5th day but I am really excited to see him get the chance to bat in the NL.  I think he&#8217;ll take the Silver Slugger for the NL this year.  The Mets got a complete player, not just the best lefthander of this generation.</p>
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		<title>By: Baseball Anti-Christ</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/01/30/royals-dont-land-santana/#comment-6900</link>
		<dc:creator>Baseball Anti-Christ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Twins wuz robbed. C&#039;mon, Joe, there&#039;s no such thing as a &quot;good #4 starter&quot;, it&#039;s an oxymoron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Twins wuz robbed. C&#8217;mon, Joe, there&#8217;s no such thing as a &#8220;good #4 starter&#8221;, it&#8217;s an oxymoron.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian D.</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/01/30/royals-dont-land-santana/#comment-6883</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Twins fan, I try to stay optimistic with what we&#039;re getting in return.  People are quick to say how we should have taken Ellsbury and the rest of what the Sox had to offer.  From what I&#039;ve read of Gomez, I&#039;m happy with our haul in this deal.  I think the overall nature of baseball tilts this trade in the Twins&#039; favor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Twins fan, I try to stay optimistic with what we&#8217;re getting in return.  People are quick to say how we should have taken Ellsbury and the rest of what the Sox had to offer.  From what I&#8217;ve read of Gomez, I&#8217;m happy with our haul in this deal.  I think the overall nature of baseball tilts this trade in the Twins&#8217; favor.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh L.

Trust me I know the feeling... I live in Seattle and our team has been pretty bad the last few years... but when King Felix pitches we are pretty much sold out... at least 10,000 extra seats full....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh L.</p>
<p>Trust me I know the feeling&#8230; I live in Seattle and our team has been pretty bad the last few years&#8230; but when King Felix pitches we are pretty much sold out&#8230; at least 10,000 extra seats full&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh L.</title>
		<link>http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/01/30/royals-dont-land-santana/#comment-6874</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just remembering from that first season Pedro was pitching, they were averaging in the 30K&#039;s and would sell the place out when he pitched ... 20K is too high, agreed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just remembering from that first season Pedro was pitching, they were averaging in the 30K&#8217;s and would sell the place out when he pitched &#8230; 20K is too high, agreed.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is definately room for improvement though in ticket sales for the Mets... last year they sold 82.9% of tickets for home games (12th in baseball)... so Santana could have a big impact...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is definately room for improvement though in ticket sales for the Mets&#8230; last year they sold 82.9% of tickets for home games (12th in baseball)&#8230; so Santana could have a big impact&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me the 20,000 increase is overly aggresive... 

Shea capacity is 55,601

Mets home avg last year 47,579

Though I guess that average from last year may be inflated from big series against good teams I would think the Mets as a good team in a huge market generally draw well (I don&#039;t live in NY so I don&#039;t know)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me the 20,000 increase is overly aggresive&#8230; </p>
<p>Shea capacity is 55,601</p>
<p>Mets home avg last year 47,579</p>
<p>Though I guess that average from last year may be inflated from big series against good teams I would think the Mets as a good team in a huge market generally draw well (I don&#8217;t live in NY so I don&#8217;t know)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Josh L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gomez=Alou?!?  That&#039;s like the craziest thing I&#039;ve heard.  As a mets fan I watched Gomez in almost every at-bat he had last season.  The only similarity I see between he and Alou is that they are both hackers - they swing at like every pitch.  The difference is that Alou doesn&#039;t miss by a foot on his hacks.  Gomez showed nothing at the plate last year.  I think he was hot for like 1 week where he might have hit an empty .290.  To me, his upside is more like Jose Reyes - he&#039;s fast as heck and can probably ignite the fans by stealing bases and turning doubles into triples.  But his lousy approach will always make him one of those overrated low OBP guys.  I&#039;m happy to part with him for the games best pitcher.

The only guy I&#039;m sad to see gone is Delois.  He&#039;s the only pitcher in our farm system that has high-end-of-the-rotation potential.  But that&#039;s all it is, POTENTIAL.  He&#039;s young and could blow his arm out at any moment.

Incidentally, as a Mets fan, I would have traded these same exact players straight up for Phil Hughes.  Sometimes I&#039;m unhappy with Minaya as our GM, but then I see how bad it could be.  Just heard a rumor that Smith went back to the Yanks to ask for Kennedy and Melky and was told to get lost.

Also, provided Santana plays as expected, the Mets can probably expect to see an extra 20,000 in ticket sales on the nights he pitches, which, if we expect $50 of revenue for each of those seats (tickets/parking/food all very expensive here in NY) and he pitches 16 home games is an additional $16 million in the Mets pockets (not including post-season).  Perhaps 20K is optimistic, but you get the point here ... not a bad deal financially either once they get him signed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gomez=Alou?!?  That&#8217;s like the craziest thing I&#8217;ve heard.  As a mets fan I watched Gomez in almost every at-bat he had last season.  The only similarity I see between he and Alou is that they are both hackers &#8211; they swing at like every pitch.  The difference is that Alou doesn&#8217;t miss by a foot on his hacks.  Gomez showed nothing at the plate last year.  I think he was hot for like 1 week where he might have hit an empty .290.  To me, his upside is more like Jose Reyes &#8211; he&#8217;s fast as heck and can probably ignite the fans by stealing bases and turning doubles into triples.  But his lousy approach will always make him one of those overrated low OBP guys.  I&#8217;m happy to part with him for the games best pitcher.</p>
<p>The only guy I&#8217;m sad to see gone is Delois.  He&#8217;s the only pitcher in our farm system that has high-end-of-the-rotation potential.  But that&#8217;s all it is, POTENTIAL.  He&#8217;s young and could blow his arm out at any moment.</p>
<p>Incidentally, as a Mets fan, I would have traded these same exact players straight up for Phil Hughes.  Sometimes I&#8217;m unhappy with Minaya as our GM, but then I see how bad it could be.  Just heard a rumor that Smith went back to the Yanks to ask for Kennedy and Melky and was told to get lost.</p>
<p>Also, provided Santana plays as expected, the Mets can probably expect to see an extra 20,000 in ticket sales on the nights he pitches, which, if we expect $50 of revenue for each of those seats (tickets/parking/food all very expensive here in NY) and he pitches 16 home games is an additional $16 million in the Mets pockets (not including post-season).  Perhaps 20K is optimistic, but you get the point here &#8230; not a bad deal financially either once they get him signed.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle,

I understand your points, and agree with most of them, and it seems we agree on the only one I was trying to make, namely that there was no way the Twins to come out looking good in this situation.  That&#039;s intended as a blanket indictment of the organization as a whole, from Pohlad to Ryan to Smith, and would encompass much of what you&#039;re talking about.  

In other words, it was the Twins themselves who largely created conditions (1), (2) and (3) that you just outlined, in which case I have a hard time cutting them slack for a possible &quot;yes&quot; answer to (4).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle,</p>
<p>I understand your points, and agree with most of them, and it seems we agree on the only one I was trying to make, namely that there was no way the Twins to come out looking good in this situation.  That&#8217;s intended as a blanket indictment of the organization as a whole, from Pohlad to Ryan to Smith, and would encompass much of what you&#8217;re talking about.  </p>
<p>In other words, it was the Twins themselves who largely created conditions (1), (2) and (3) that you just outlined, in which case I have a hard time cutting them slack for a possible &#8220;yes&#8221; answer to (4).</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS- I think the answer to (4) is yes, it was a decent offer and one the Twins were smart to take, given the conditions of (1), (2) and (3).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS- I think the answer to (4) is yes, it was a decent offer and one the Twins were smart to take, given the conditions of (1), (2) and (3).</p>
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